what makes you think its ,flawed,jst becuase it bursts out a bit of flare,so to speak, if you paint the door of your house to protect it from the weather,does that mean your door is flawed.
Now is this by chance or design ?
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what makes you think its ,flawed,jst becuase it bursts out a bit of flare,so to speak, if you paint the door of your house to protect it from the weather,does that mean your door is flawed.
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If you make something that then needs fixing in order to stop the planet frying ( or whatever), then it is flawed. Logic. Would you describe the initial setup , without a guard, as 'perfect' then?
If I was god and could make my front door from any material, I would use one that did not need maintenance, or be affected by weather.
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My point exactly, thanks.
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EddieM
Some very interesting and more than provocative articles on left wing, right wing, atheist and devout versus IQ. I won't post any links as frankly they're not terribly convincing and sway into pseudo science.
The upshot however (if you believe the articles) is that right wing believers had significantly lower IQ's than moderate atheists. This was attributed to a right wing believer accepting stuff rather than challenging it.
As I say though, the studies are somewhat silly so I wont post the links. Personally I dont believe, but if it helps you, gives you comfort and you don't try to convert / kill me, I am fine with it all.
The upshot however (if you believe the articles) is that right wing believers had significantly lower IQ's than moderate atheists. This was attributed to a right wing believer accepting stuff rather than challenging it.
As I say though, the studies are somewhat silly so I wont post the links. Personally I dont believe, but if it helps you, gives you comfort and you don't try to convert / kill me, I am fine with it all.
"This was attributed to a right wing believer accepting stuff rather than challenging it."
If that's how your links gauged IQ then definitely best avoided.
All the clever people are theists. Aristotle, Augustine, Confucius, Aquinas, Bonaventure, Copernicus, Bruno, Kepler, Galileo, Pascal, Descartes, Newton, Bach, Mendel. The list is endless.
If that's how your links gauged IQ then definitely best avoided.
All the clever people are theists. Aristotle, Augustine, Confucius, Aquinas, Bonaventure, Copernicus, Bruno, Kepler, Galileo, Pascal, Descartes, Newton, Bach, Mendel. The list is endless.
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EddieM
"This was attributed to a right wing believer accepting stuff rather than challenging it."
If that's how your links gauged IQ then definitely best avoided.
All the clever people are theists. Aristotle, Augustine, Confucius, Aquinas, Bonaventure, Copernicus, Bruno, Kepler, Galileo, Pascal, Descartes, Newton, Bach, Mendel. The list is endless.
"All the clever people are theists" Somewhat bold claim.. and no I don't claim to be clever.
Is that really what you thought my post was about ?
Bold indeed, as the presence of just one clever atheist proves it wrong.
Which is what many people struggle with the concept of 'proof' as required by science.
No, I was using the analogy used by another poster to show that if god designed something that needed fixing, then the creation was not perfect, or the creation had some unforeseen flaws in it.
Otherwise no 'fix' would be needed.
Not a pop at God at all, but highlighting the flawed the logic of using him to explain something not understand yet understood.
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