Indeed. I think you're saying much the same as I did when I wrote:
Kind Regards, John
two gang light switch problem
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Kind Regards, John
Hi,
I haven't changed any lights at all but, I am just wondering if when I changed the upstairs and downstairs switches as per 'er indoors instructions, would the upstairs switch be affecting what goes on downstairs.
The upstairs switch is also two gang and is a two way for the landing light and, the other is for the light in the bathroom. Would that have anything to do with it guys ?
I haven't changed any lights at all but, I am just wondering if when I changed the upstairs and downstairs switches as per 'er indoors instructions, would the upstairs switch be affecting what goes on downstairs.
The upstairs switch is also two gang and is a two way for the landing light and, the other is for the light in the bathroom. Would that have anything to do with it guys ?
I'd missed/forgotten the fact that you had been changing switches.
And put in metal ones without earthing them.
If things still worked, you'd never have come here, and you'd still have unearthed switches.
I'm updating what I said earlier.
You must not do any more work on your electrics until you understand how they work.
And put in metal ones without earthing them.
If things still worked, you'd never have come here, and you'd still have unearthed switches.
I'm updating what I said earlier.
You must not do any more work on your electrics until you understand how they work.
- http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=electrical+circuits+101
- http://kevinboone.net/electricity.html
- http://web.archive.org/web/20080213151445/http://www.kevinboone.com/domesticinstallations.html
- http://www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:lighting
- http://www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:books
- http://www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics
It's difficult to see how. The 2-way switches (both upstairs and downstairs) for the landing light, and the switch for the bathroom, should be totally separate from the hall light/switching, and all are apparently working satisfactorily.
One thought - behind the upstairs switch, are there any wires joined in some sort of connector block?
Kind Regards, John
I will have a look tomorrow and let you know. I don't think so though.
The way forward is to unscrew the covers of the roses downstairs near the hall.
You should see a terminal with 2 blacks and the blue drop wire to the light
Check the screws are tight on these black wires carefully.
Dont over tighten else you will do more damage. If one is loose it will be obvious.
Turn power back on.
You should see a terminal with 2 blacks and the blue drop wire to the light
Check the screws are tight on these black wires carefully.
Dont over tighten else you will do more damage. If one is loose it will be obvious.
Turn power back on.
Thanks Andy,
I will check the lounge which is the nearest rose to the hall.
I will check the lounge which is the nearest rose to the hall.
... yes, that would not be unreasonable (as I said, the problem is likely to be at the other end {wherever that might be} of the neutral feed to the non-functioning light) - but, of course, only if the lights are wired using the 'loop-in rose system'. If there is some other wiring system, the neutral could obviously come from a junction box (which could be anywhere) or from a connector block behind a switch (which I have partially asked about). However, it would probably be worth the OP looking, in case it is a loop-in rose system.
Kind Regards, John
Good morning guys,
First the good news. I have taken down the lounge rose and found a black wire that had become detached from a terminal block which already had a black in it.
I refitted and whoopee the hall light worked.
The bad news is, that if I switch the hall light on, the lounge light comes on as well and they both come on dimly.If I don't use the hall light, the lounge light works perfectly.
One more little problem.
First the good news. I have taken down the lounge rose and found a black wire that had become detached from a terminal block which already had a black in it.
I refitted and whoopee the hall light worked.
The bad news is, that if I switch the hall light on, the lounge light comes on as well and they both come on dimly.If I don't use the hall light, the lounge light works perfectly.
One more little problem.
Please just get an electrician.
That, in itself, is obviously good news for you - and confirms the suspicion that many of us had.
That, indeed, is bad news. It sounds as if there may be any number of potential things wrong - so I'm inclined to agree with BAS that now is probably the time to try again to see if you can interest an electrician in looking into you entire lighting circuit(s).
Kind Regards, John
It's easier said than done down here in the far West of Cornwall.
This job is too small to even reply to phone calls.
I am sure with the help of all you good guys on this forum, we are not far from achieving success.
This job is too small to even reply to phone calls.
I am sure with the help of all you good guys on this forum, we are not far from achieving success.
Much as some of us would like to help you, what you are now describing is a lot more potentially complicated than the original problem you had - and, this time, there is no single 'very likely' cause of the problem that I can think of.
Kind Regards, John
Well I would like to thank you all for your patience in trying to solve my problem. I will now take your advice and keep trying to find an electrician.
In the meantime, I will disconnect the hall light fitting.
Thanks once again for all your help.
In the meantime, I will disconnect the hall light fitting.
Thanks once again for all your help.
You're welcome, and I'm again sorry that I don't think it's either practical or sensible for us to try to help you with this more complicated problem. Good luck in finding an electrician - you might possibly find it a little easier to interest one now,in as much as you now have a more 'interesting' problem that needs investigating!
Just one question, to give me something to ponder ... do I take it from what you've said that if the the hall light is switched off, switching the lounge light doesn't cause the hall light to come on, even dimly?
Kind Regards, John
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