Total cost of public services divided by the population I suppose.
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Scroungers and Parasites
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Sorry to butt into what must be a very knowledgeable conversation regarding the current monetary system, which of course includes taxation, but do any of you fine individuals actually comprehend exactly what money is and how it comes into being?
If so then please enlighten me as to where a bank gets the money to make a loan to me?
thanks in advance....lmfao
If so then please enlighten me as to where a bank gets the money to make a loan to me?
thanks in advance....lmfao
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And so "he" should be. We pay tax as a percentage of our earnings. Those who earn very little pay little tax.
Those who earn a great deal should (and can well afford to) pay their full percentage. Why should they pay any less?
Why should they pay any more?
If it can can be quantitatively eased, then it must be money.
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It's called fairness. Everyone who earns has to give up a certain percentage of it for taxes. If the people who can most afford to give up that money wriggle out of it, that is just wrong. And utterly greedy.
And before you say anything, it's not their money to keep!
Wouldn't it be more fair if eveyone paid the same amount? Or if everyone paid according to what they used? More than one kind of fairness...
Actually it is.
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Not sure if thats correct EFL as it would by definition mean that my sperm is money?? Which my missus would state as untrue as I pay, in some bloody way, every time!
quan·ti·ta·tive
(kwŏn′tĭ-tā′tĭv)adj.
1.
a. Expressed or expressible as a quantity.
b. Of, relating to, or susceptible of measurement.
c. Of or relating to number or quantity.
ease
(ēz)n.
1. The condition of being comfortable or relieved.
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No, not those definitions but thanks for that.
Money is a number someone is allowed to put in a column.
Money is a number someone is allowed to put in a column.
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Doggit
A fair share could be considered as each to their ability, each to their needs.
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Now here's an interesting question. Money used to be in gold and silver. Then the bank of England issued notes with the word "I promise to pay the bearer" on them, with the intention of giving gold to those who presented the notes. Except the notes then stayed in circulation, and became the defacto standard for money.
I suspect the real point behind your question, is where is all this electronic money going round in cyber space. When the Government did the QE trick, did they actually print the £350bn, or did they just add a few zeros to the balance sheet with a sleight of hand accounting. In theory, there should be a bank vault somewhere with all this money stashed away, but I have my suspicions.
Therein lies a conundrum, or maybe an anomaly. The liberals raised the tax threshold to 10K, so the percentage game kicks in above that. But whilst it was a kind and generous thing to do, it then put a greater burden on the middle classes (because the rich are obviously avoiding it according to JohnD) and the conservatives went along with it, because avoided the benefits bill growing higher. So those on low wages contribute very little to the economy, and often take more out, and that was one of the arguments during the Brexit campaign against foreign workers coming over here, because most of them were on low wages, so took out more than they put in.
Lord Rothermere is not on low wages.
He was born here, educated here, has a country estate and mansions here, runs a business here, which earns its money here, pumps out RWR propaganda for the government here.
If his house catches fire he will expect our fire service to put it out. If criminals attack him or his assets he will expect our police and courts to protect him. He relies on employees educated here.
But does not pay tax here.
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Doggit
And he's not the only one doing it, but you've singled him out because your politics are opposite to him. But at least he employs people that pay tax, so he contributes to the system in one way or another. So why didn't you pick Branson as an example then; possibly because he's left wing and wanted to Remain.
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Funny kind of logic.
Millionaire owes 55K. Guy on minimum wage pays 55K???
It's gonna be tricky to charge people PPU (Pay Per Use). Everytime you put the bins out, every time you use the tip, every time you use council leisure facilities (you would pay more than you do at present), then there's an amount to pay for the Fire and Police services.
How did I predict you were going to say that??
How can it be their money if it is owed to pay taxes?
How about guy on minimum wage owes £1k and the millionaire also owes £1k?
Nevertheless, it would be another kind of 'fair', would it not?
Owing something to someone is not the same as theft from that person. Until you hand it over it is still your property. Steal a lettuce from the supermarket and you have stolen a lettuce. You haven't stolen the lettuce and the 30p still in your posession, which you owe.
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