Now it's Musk who's triumphed!

carmanmemoranda said:
No problem with it at all.

But it's factually unchecked. Therefore it is not reliable information. So yes I don't gobble it up, I ignore it.

Simply, how do you verify to yourself what you read is true ? Then I can believe it.
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Bit like a lot of this climate change caper that gets bandied around ??
 
carmanmemoranda said:
No problem with it at all.

But it's factually unchecked. Therefore it is not reliable information. So yes I don't gobble it up, I ignore it.

Simply, how do you verify to yourself what you read is true ? Then I can believe it.
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X has Community Notes which seems to work well. If unsure about something, the Internet provides a hive of differing opinions and information to check against.
 
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Crumbs. I don't recall the same level of forensic methodology being applied to everyone else who has ever had eyes on the info and that is why I think there is bias in the media right now. I have assumed those going in under DoGE have the security clearance to do so in the first place. I understand about the sensitive users data information being held in the Treasury, it is not right if those people do not have the requisite security clearance.
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Well, there are many such problems. There are a number of integrity-of-government rules designed to keep people who do business from governments controlling the purse strings that affect them.
We don’t know what Mr. Musk’s status is. We don’t know if he has any status at all or they’re waiting to see what happens and they try to provide it to him retrospectively. So we’re really very much at a loss to how all of this might come together. But it appears that he is being given access to information that could be extremely helpful to use against his competitors. Simply saying, “Well, we hope that he’ll do the right thing on conflicts of interest,” falls far, far short of the obligations of the government.
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There are a number of those. There are very elaborate requirements in federal law about who can control federal funds — who can issue payments on the behalf of the federal government. In all likelihood, the people involved do not qualify under those terms.
It also means that they’re getting access to extraordinarily sensitive private information that is covered by the Privacy Act and a number of other statutes and regulations designed to protect the American people from identity theft. If reports that they’ve copied this information onto other servers are true, and those servers get hacked, then many of us could have our bank accounts emptied by the federal government.
By contrast, Mr. Musk has been saying that he’s identifying false payments, or illegal payments, and saving the federal government $4 billion a day or some enormous figure of that kind. There’s no reason to believe that the data in this system would allow one to tell what’s legal and what’s not, leaving aside the fact that Mr. Musk is not authorized to make those sorts of decisions. So it seems that there’s either wishful thinking or something worse going on in how they’re trying to justify this.
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It should have been done properly with transparency and then everyone could have confidence in the process and the findings. It's a real shame.
 
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the Internet provides a hive of differing opinions and information to check against
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Which you dont

Given as you are perfectly happy with the propaganda on Twitter….and more than happy to try and spread the lies on here.
 
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No I don't.
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Maybe time to take a break? Or hope that one of the others joins in. Yesterday evening I was discussing this topic with Lirefighter but I've not seen him so far today.
 
MNW67 said:
Maybe time to take a break? Or hope that one of the others joins in. Yesterday I was discussing this topic with Lirefighter but I've not seen him so far today.
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You take a break and stop bullying because I have a different opinion.
 
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