National Grooming Gangs Inquiry Announced

[motorbiking]

Your comment does have a certain logical consistency. Although I would be interested to read a reasoned rebuttal.

If you read the report, you will find the "why" the conclusions of COCAD and VKPP are wrong. They are clearly spelt out. Nosenout will dismiss the rebuttal as irrelevant waffle.

The Audit claims:

Presenting the data without the ‘unknowns’ where the identification of ethnicity is at such a low level is misleading. p75

Nosenout knows better:

2%
28%
Guess which is the majority...?

Uknown is the majority. thats the point.

VKPP and COCAD reports on child sexual abuse and exploitation data were not available at the time the Home Office published their paper but, as discussed earlier in this chapter, their data does not include sufficient ethnicity data to conclude that the majority of offenders are White.

Flawed conclusion - can't be clearer than that. Not to mention that its CSE/CSA data, so 96.3% irrelevant anyway.

4.3.8. Perpetrator Ethnicity

Lots of analysis on data where ethnicity is reliably known and the outcome is vastly different. The Casey report comments on this in several places.

All of which I have posted so wont repeat myself.

 

[noseall]

If you read the report, you will find the "why" the conclusions of COCAD and VKPP are wrong. They are clearly spelt out. Nosenout will dismiss the rebuttal as irrelevant waffle.

The Audit claims:


Nosenout knows better:

Uknown is the majority. thats the point.


Flawed conclusion - can't be clearer than that. Not to mention that its CSE/CSA data, so 96.3% irrelevant anyway.

4.3.8. Perpetrator Ethnicity

Lots of analysis on data where ethnicity is reliably known and the outcome is vastly different. The Casey report comments on this in several places.

All of which I have posted so wont repeat myself.

None of which says that white British male abuse gangs is other than a vast majority.
2%
28%
Even MBK can work out which is the larger number.
...It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of...."

Lies

 

[Notch7]

Lots of analysis on data where ethnicity is reliably known

No there isnt

 

[motorbiking]

None of which says that white British male abuse gangs is other than a vast majority.
2%
28%
Even MBK can work out which is the larger number.
...It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of...."

Lies

untrue - the flaws in the conclusion are called out several times.

No there isnt

4.3.8. Perpetrator Ethnicity
Read it.

What do I get for a pair of liars?

 

[noseall]

untrue - the flaws in the conclusion are called out several times.

So the analysed audited numbers you posted in order to show white British at 28% rather than 80+% are correct but all other numbers in the same table are wrong?

Righto Billy.

...It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of...."

Lies.

 

[motorbiking]

So the analysed audited numbers you posted in order to show white British at 28% rather than 80+% are correct but all other numbers in the same table are wrong?

Righto Billy.

...It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of...."

Lies.

You posted dozens of times quotes from VKPP and COCAD:

Perhaps if they had spoken to Richard Fewkes (Hydrant programme) they may have got a better idea. 2023 83% of rape gangs = white. First 3/4 2024 85% rape gangs = white.

With over two thirds of ethnicity data missing for perpetrators in the VKPP report and nearly two thirds missing in COCAD, it is not possible to draw any conclusions on the representation of ethnic groups amongst perpetrators from this published data set.

The conclusions from these reports are entirely flawed. That's not just my opinion, that's the opinion of the Casey report. The report goes on to show analysis of over 50 cases, all over the country as well as live cases where the majority of perpetrators of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs are not white. The implied suggestion is that the ethnicity has been redacted for "cultural sensitivity". Something Fewkes denies.

Quilliam Foundation also agrees:

https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-dissecting-grooming-gangs.pdf

During our time researching for this report, the numbers that we have found are, frankly, alarming. The over-representation of Asian-ethnicity (predominantly British Pakistani origin) individuals in this specific crime profile is conclusively irrefutable, and when this data reaches the public, we hope that it will an eye-opener for many and a point from which we can all move forward towards solutions.

Of the 52 groups for which usable ethnicity data was provided, 26 (50%) comprised all Asian offenders, 11 (21%) all white offenders, 9 (17%) groups comprised offenders from multiple ethnicities, 4 (8%) comprised all black offenders and there were 2 (4%) groups of exclusively Arab offenders.

I can only conclude that your persistent repeat of your lie, is because you can't accept being wrong again, despite it being a frequent occurrence.

Perhaps a pie chart or two will help:

 

[noseall]

You posted dozens of times quotes from VKPP and COCAD:


The conclusions from these reports are entirely flawed. That's not just my opinion, that's the opinion of the Casey report. The report goes on to show analysis of over 50 cases, all over the country as well as live cases where the majority of perpetrators of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs are not white. The implied suggestion is that the ethnicity has been redacted for "cultural sensitivity". Something Fewkes denies.

Quilliam Foundation also agrees:

https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/group-based-child-sexual-exploitation-dissecting-grooming-gangs.pdf

I can only conclude that your persistent repeat of your lie, is because you can't accept being wrong again, despite it being a frequent occurrence.

Perhaps a pie chart or two will help:
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As I said, even the audited reports show NATIONWIDE, white abuse gangs are a majority.
Quit whilst you are behind Billy.

 

[Notch7]

The report goes on to show analysis of over 50 cases, all over the country as well as live cases where the majority of perpetrators of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs are not white

50 cases…….

 

[Notch7]

That's not just my opinion, that's the opinion of the Casey report.

Casey report doesn’t say that

 

[Notch7]

Quilliam Foundation also agrees:

That’s not exactly bias free.

Quilliam foundation…..co founded by Maajid Nawaz, a rather controversial right wing shill and it also has connections to Tommy Robinson.

I wouldn’t call it a trusted source

 

[motorbiking]

That’s not exactly bias free.

Quilliam foundation…..co founded by Maajid Nawaz, a rather controversial right wing shill and it also has connections to Tommy Robinson.

I wouldn’t call it a trusted source

Casey commented on such distrust in her report.

6.2.3. Research on ethnicity of Child Sexual Exploitation perpetrators

As I said, even the audited reports show NATIONWIDE, white abuse gangs are a majority.
Quit whilst you are behind Billy.

Lies - you are just making it up now. P121 - Denial

50 cases…….

many are studies in their own right. But good try.

Casey report doesn’t say that

I('ve included the quotes.

 

[noseall]

Casey commented on such distrust in her report.

Yes the audit was very revealing...

A whopping 2% 'Asian'. That would put Pakistanis at around 1.5% (?), given that 'Asian' is quite a broad brush.

Keep dithering boyo.

 

[noseall]

Lies - you are just making it up now. P121 - Denial

And then later in the audit she goes on to show adjusted figures, which you relied upon in an earlier post to bolster your argument. Let's have a look at that shall we...

Majority white British abuse gangs.

 

[motorbiking]

And then later in the audit she goes on to show adjusted figures, which you relied upon in an earlier post to bolster your argument. Let's have a look at that shall we...

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Majority white British abuse gangs.

Nonsense. You are ignoring everything they are saying. Chapter 6. Has got your name all over it.

I do hope you never acquire 28% of a company and think it makes you a majority shareholder

 

[motorbiking]

And then later in the audit she goes on to show adjusted figures, which you relied upon in an earlier post to bolster your argument. Let's have a look at that shall we...

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Majority white British abuse gangs.

Majority unknown.