Zion and the Art of Armageddon

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British doctors spreading fake news!
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One doesn't cancel out the other. Both look guilty as hell here. Israel has one of the most high tech army's in the world and can knock out targets without indiscriminate bombing. It looks like genocide on the outside, I wouldn't like to call that one. What is needed though is a complete cease fire to get aid into Gaza. I think now it is time to send in Israels special forces on the ground to target hamas as they have the means to do this to avoid further civillian casualty's. It is not a good look for Israel at the moment
 
My stance has turned 180 degrees on this war. I still support Israel in their right to fight hamas and still think that they have done the right thing in Gaza by taking a tough stance. I do not think that the IDF is now acting responsibly and should now be stopped by International pressure and allow the free press in to see what is actually happening and has happned. This type of war cannot continue
 
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Let's assume, as a working hypothesis, that we are not talking to a pro-Israel propagandist who is determined to follow the Hasbarah instructions to deny, evade and obfuscate evidence of Israeli atrocities.

Is there any evidence that you would be willing to accept?
 
JohnD said:
Let's assume, as a working hypothesis, that we are not talking to a pro-Israel propagandist who is determined to follow the Hasbarah instructions to deny, evade and obfuscate evidence of Israeli atrocities.

Is there any evidence that you would be willing to accept?
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Of course. It is the same as only believing what hamas puts out, my trust in Israel is waining
 
Highway Man said:
Of course. It is the same as only believing what hamas puts out, my trust in Israel is waining
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I don't know anybody who does that.

Would it be equivalent to saying that all news from Israel is "put out" by Likud?
 
Were you referring to the fact that many of the Israelis killed, both in Israel during the incursion, and later, in Gaza, were deliberately or recklessly killed by the Israeli Army, and not by Palestinians as was often claimed?

"Israeli newspapers including Haaretz, ABC News and the UN's Commission of Inquiry have pointed out that during the October 7 attacks the IDF ordered the Hannibal Directive to be used. The IDF was ordered to prevent "at all costs" the abduction of Israeli civilians or soldiers, possibly leading to the death of a large number of Israeli hostages."
 
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