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What vehicle(s) do you drive on a regular basis?

Munroast said:
what an environmentally disastrous thing to do. nearly 50% of austrailias electric is still generated from coal (the most polluting form of generation). Apparently Austrailias electric averages something like 640g of co2 per kwh - that would be about 160g of CO2 per km (fast car with air con). @ReganAndCarter diesel van may not be as fast but would likely be less environmentally damaging
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Some countries a lot closer to home are poss worse than that. Where I go in the Moravian part of Czech Republic, from the window of my train from Prague on the way there I can see several huge coal power stations - all on full throttle. If you stand on train station platforms in the region around Ostrava you will see countless very long coal trains passing through with their wagons piled high with black gold. Transporting the coal from their mines to the power stations.

Some countries, even in The EU, aren't keeping to the 'climate emergency'. Yet we're busy closing down our North Sea oil fields. Treacherous politicians leading us on the road to ruin as usual.
 
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Avocet said:
You're forgetting that not all the carbon that comes out of the tailpipe comes from the fuel. You're also assuming complete combustion of the fuel. IF your van (you still haven't said what it is, yet) really COULD average 60 MPG on a trip like that, your CO2 emissions would be closer to 125 g/km.

Convert miles per gallon(UK) to grams of CO2 per km (Diesel) - fuel consumption converter

www.unitjuggler.com www.unitjuggler.com
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would you like a nice picture of a proper useful practical vehicle - something that is some use, than some stupidly priced over powered EV

Been written off twice
bought it as a write off in 2009 for 2k (3 months old 12k n the clock, motor factors van they are all driven by mad people) then it got wrote off again in 2018 when a lorry crashed into the back of it, bought it back for 400 ish
whats your EV cost ?
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and yes drive at 45 - 50mph only have it gear when needed and mpg is good - on a long run do 70 to the gallon

it is possible to drive at these speeds, and to accelerate gently to them
 
Harry Bloomfield said:
In the early days of ICE, they used to do similar, before fuel was generally available. They managed it, by using extremely carefully planned routes, with fuel stops, where the fuel stops had pre-arranged fuel, delivered in cans.
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Harry Bloomfield said:
Now try the same route in an EV, without prearranging the charging points weeks in advance.
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I struggle to follow your logic sometimes. You start off giving ICE a pass for having limited supporting infrastructure in its early days, but spend most of your time bashing EV for the same thing. There isn't any acknowledgement of the leaps and bounds made to now where EVs are evidently useful. It's like you tried an EV once ten years ago when some of the things you now say, were more likely to have been believable, and have never since reevaluated your position

Harry Bloomfield said:
I did a similar, UK run, back in the 70's, in an ICE - no pre-organisation needed, plenty of places to quickly refuel, without diverting, no waiting, no delays.
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The '70s were not early days for ICE

Harry Bloomfield said:
a fast charge does the battery no favours at all
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Reports are coming out that batteries are lasting better than manufacturers had expected, as it happens..

Munroast said:
nearly 50% of austrailias electric is still generated from coal
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How do you know he charged using it?

ReganAndCarter said:
charging the ugly thing and drinking sh*t coffee
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Not quite sure of the relevance of those or the purpose of adding them in, other than to evidence the extent to which you opinionise on something that would be better served sticking to facts?

ReganAndCarter said:
bit like an EV's battery charge while atempting a round trip from Bristol to London
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When did you attempt this? I didn't realise you owned an EV..
 
securespark said:
Funnily enough the new MG HS PHEV gets a good write-up from What Car? and it has one of, if not the longest mileage running on battery alone. 75, I think.
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Would I be right in thinking that with those figures, they must have bigger batteries, if so then when you are using it on petrol you will be lugging about all the extra weight.
 
securespark said:
So if you were to buy a new car, how would it be powered?
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If you are asking me, the truth is that I wouldn't buy a new car.
Not being devious, I just wouldn't (unless I won the Lottery, that is).

But, in the spirit of attempting to answer your question, I would buy a full EV.
Coz, right now and for the forseeable, it would tick all of the boxes I have and are likely to have.
 
ReganAndCarter said:
OK, just to humour you. :rolleyes:

Being generous, the Tesla would travel 600 Kms on a full charge. If they used a supercharger it would take approx an hour for a full charge (a lot longer on other chargers). 13,000 miles would need 21 full charges = 21 hours (almost a day!!!) wasted sitting around charging the ugly thing and drinking sh*t coffee. Then there's the time locating/diverting to available, working chargers and faffing around with apps, cables and all that bowllux. So add a few more hours. So maybe 1.5 days wasted on charging in total. A conservative estimate.

An ICE wouldn't need anything like that time to refuel and would possibly, especially a diesel like my wondeful reliable van, have a range double that of the Tesla = 50 per cent fewer refueling stops. So being very generous say 0.25 of a day spent sourcing fuel and refilling an ICE.

Unless of course the Tesla's Oz trip wasn't a real world scenario and the Tesla wasn't a standard car. In which case it's meaningless and all comparisons with ICE are pointless.

But don't let me spoil your delusions. :ROFLMAO:
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You know you don't have to stand there holding the charging cable like a petrol pump, don't you? You can do other things while it charges - like eat or sleep... :rolleyes:

Pick all the holes you like - he's done it you haven't... :)
 
aveatry said:
If I was given one I would like it too - and if the government gave me one to save the world then I might then believe in the climate apocalypse
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It's happening whether you believe it or not, so nobody really cares whether you do or don't...
 
ReganAndCarter said:
Some countries a lot closer to home are poss worse than that. Where I go in the Moravian part of Czech Republic, from the window of my train from Prague on the way there I can see several huge coal power stations - all on full throttle. If you stand on train station platforms in the region around Ostrava you will see countless very long coal trains passing through with their wagons piled high with black gold. Transporting the coal from their mines to the power stations.
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Do you ever check before posting?:LOL: The Czech Republic is WAY cleaner than Australia! Don't get me wrong, it's pretty filthy by Western European standards, but it's better than Australia! 402g/kWh in 2024...

CO2 emissions per kWh in Czech Republic - Nowtricity

Electricity CO2 emissions per kWh in Czech Republic. Current production by electricity source and average emissions by month and year.
www.nowtricity.com www.nowtricity.com

ReganAndCarter said:
Some countries, even in The EU, aren't keeping to the 'climate emergency'. Yet we're busy closing down our North Sea oil fields. Treacherous politicians leading us on the road to ruin as usual.
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Yes, there are lots of greedy, short-sighted folk about...
 
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