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Are the border force and the RNLI losing their touch?

pete01 said:
No it isn’t only migrants that are a danger but the dangerous ones that already live here are err already here, why take the risk..

One rape of a women or child is one to many....but maybe thats just me.
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Of course, no level-headed person would disagree.

However, the rhetoric from Reform et al. is intentionally designed to direct peoples anger at a relatively small group of people. I'll say again, with the assertion being these people are a main cause of our economic ills, which they're not.

There's no balance, which again is intentional.

Farage was on a news prog a few weeks back going on and on about the risk if migrants. The presenter said along the lines of 'yes, however we have our own home grown troublemakers as well.'

You could just tell that Farage didn't want that sort of question. Doesn't fit the narrative. So he somewhat reluctantly said along the lines of 'ah, well, yes, we do indeed. However ...'

I am convinced some people have the perception most crime is committed my migrants, fed by the rhetoric of Reform et al.
 
carmanmemoranda said:
Hopefully the Government is recording those arriving by non clandestine means (the rnli finding them helps in this reagard).
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If I jumped on one of those dinghy’s to get me to the taxi rank mid channel, what’s to stop me giving my name as, say, carmanmemoranda when asked? Who's going to check and how?
 
Mottie said:
My point was more about the fact that unknown people with no papers from feck knows where get ferried in to the U.K. for free but but fare paying passengers from known departure points have to go through all sorts of hoops to get into the country. In that case, why bother with passport control at all?
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Because about a thousand times more people come legally through passport control than come illegally on small boats. To scrap passport control would be throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
 
diy_fun_uk said:
I am convinced some people have the perception most crime is committed my migrants, fed by the rhetoric of Reform et al.
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I dont think that's true (I could be wrong it has to happen one day) people just dont want illegal people committing crimes when they shouldn't really be here....
 
Imagine a future where your great great great grandchild is seeking refuge in a foreign country, instigated after the collapse of the UK. No legal routes out were available.

He/She is on a boat headed for the shore of said foreign country.
The boat is struggling under the weight.
Surely the country will assist, seeing those on board are in trouble.
Nope. They sit and watch. They do nothing.
Your grandchild thrice removed drowns.
They're dead.

I prefer to think that countries will rescue migrants if need be, however backed up by an extremely robust processing system.
 
Even if there's only one child on a small boat of 50 people, I don't want to see the following. Sad to think some on here wouldn't have any problem with it.

Caution, some might find the linked image distressing.

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Death of Alan Kurdi - Wikipedia

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MNW67 said:
Because about a thousand times more people come legally through passport control than come illegally on small boats. To scrap passport control would be throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
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In the interests of fair play and equality, how about letting the same number through passport control, unchecked, as the RNLI and the border force drop off on our shores each day then? That way, those who are coming to the U.K. and wouldn’t be let in because of criminal convictions can come in the same as Ahmed from dontknowwheristan can.
 
Mottie said:
In the interests of fair play and equality, how about letting the same number through passport control, unchecked, as the RNLI and the border force drop off on our shores each day then? That way, those who are coming to the U.K. and wouldn’t be let in because of criminal convictions can come in the same as Ahmed from dontknowwheristan can.
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Maybe Jeremy Corbyn's new party will adopt that as a policy!
 
Mottie said:
how about letting the same number through passport control, unchecked, as the RNLI and the border force drop off on our shores each day then?
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And make their entry to the UK illegal? Why would anyone do that if they can do it legally?
 
pete01 said:
No one wants to see that...
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Eh?

But some on here seem to indicate they'd be perfectly happy to see the people on the boats not assisted. As a deterrent. Don't help them.

That would lead to more migrant deaths, including any women and children on said boats.

Good luck anyone voting Reform, you might just be doing your little bit to facilitating such things.
 
denso13 said:
And make their entry to the UK illegal? Why would anyone do that if the can do it legally?
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Because we do it for some so why not do it for all? Can you really not understand why people get ****ed at those that are brought into the U.K. unchecked by our own border force yet the rest of us have to produce documents and (if you believe Notch, Nosey, Carman, ellal etc) we go onto 'third country' queues at airports and have to wait longer in those queues to get onto a flight and into our own country that Ahmed can get across the channel on a dinghy?
 
diy_fun_uk said:
Eh?

But some on here seem to indicate they'd be perfectly happy to see the people on the boats not assisted. As a deterrent. Don't help them.

That would lead to more migrant deaths, including any women and children on said boats.

Good luck anyone voting Reform, you might just be doing your little bit to facilitating such things.
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That simply does not add up! They take the risk, because the chances are good enough, and the reward, to make it worthwhile. Once the odds, and reward is made not worthwhile, the numbers reduce dramatically.
 
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