National Grooming Gangs Inquiry Announced

[Knave of Hearts]

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If the enquiry finds white rapists gangs I'll withdraw this statement, ...

A recent report into the physical abuse inflicted by John Smyth QC at Winchester College has also been published which not only details abuse, but the school’s failure to stop said abuse.
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Bearing in mind the prevalence of abuse within boarding schools, along with significant concerns as to how abuse was able to take in these institutions for so long, how abusers were sometimes able to go from school to school and to continue to abuse children and how some schools failed to stop abuse once they were informed of it,

Sexual abuse in boarding schools – change is urgently needed

Dino Nocivelli calls for boarding schools to lose their charitable status.

www.leighday.co.uk

This rapid thematic review has revealed how prevalent sexual harassment and online sexual abuse are for children and young people. It is concerning that for some children, incidents are so commonplace that they see no point in reporting them. ..., but it found that the issue is so widespread that it needs addressing for all children and young people. It recommends that schools, colleges and multi-agency partners act as though sexual harassment and online sexual abuse are happening, even when there are no specific reports.

Review of sexual abuse in schools and colleges

www.gov.uk

The review, published on 10 June 2021, found that the frequency of harmful sexual behaviours meant that some children and young people consider them to be ‘normal’

A year on from the launch of the Ofsted review into sexual abuse in schools and colleges – The Education Hub

In response to the murder of Sarah Everard, and the release of thousands of testimonies of incidents of sexual harassment via the Everyone’s Invited website, we rapidly put funding in place for the NSPCC to create a bespoke helpline to

educationhub.blog.gov.uk

3. Boarding schools could be said to provide “the ideal environment for grooming”.[1] Certain characteristics unique to the boarding environment heighten the risks of sexual abuse of pupils by staff.
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3.4. Boarding schools often produce a strong sense of group allegiance and very close relationships may exist between members of staff, some of whom will live together on site. Pupils’ awareness of such allegiances between staff may make it more difficult to identify staff members in whom they may confide, impeding the reporting of concerns
(Numerous specific examples are mentioned in this article to support their findings.)

https://www.iicsa.org.uk/reports-recommendations/publications/investigation/residential-schools/part-c-boarding-schools/c2-additional-risks-boarding-schools.html

The problem is not an ethnic, nor religious, nor geographical problem:

“We were there all alone”: Sexual abuse within the peer group in boarding schools in Israel – Retrospective perceptions of adult survivors

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0145213423001357

This is just a short snapshot of sexual abuse in Boarding schools there;'s many, many more.
Then there's religious institutions, children's homes, orphanages, Young Offenders Institutions, Foster Homes, etc.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

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Withdrawal awaited.
Will you also withdraw the allegations that people who point out the truth about non-Asian sex offenders are supporting or seeking to excuse the Asian ones?

I think you're wrong....... to expect some posters on here to have a small degree of honour.

They just don't want their bigoted assumptions to be disproved.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

What a horrible idea.

What on earth made you come up with such a suggestion?

What kind of suggestion do you expect from horrible people?

No it isn't - it's disgusting.

Worse than accusing posters of being anti Semitic because fillystine doesn't like what they say?

 

[Knave of Hearts]

I’m glad you agree the rolling eye emoji is pathetic and mainly used by people restrained from access to schools.

You are probably the recipient of many 'rolling eyes' emojis.
"The rolling eyes emoji typically conveys sarcasm, annoyance, disbelief, impatience, or disdain. It can be used playfully to express a "yeah, whatever" sentiment or more seriously to show genuine frustration or boredom.

• Disbelief and sarcasm:
  It's often used to express a skeptical or ironic response to something unbelievable or ridiculous, according to Dictionary.com.
• Annoyance and impatience:
  It can show that you are annoyed or growing impatient with a situation or a person, says EZ Texting.
• Boredom:
  When you're bored with a conversation or activity, this emoji can be a visual way to express that feeling, notes Emojipedia.
• Frustration:
  It can signify a moment of frustration or moderate disapproval, as if you are rolling your eyes at something you disapprove of. "

I frequently experience disbelief at your comments.
I regularly experience annoyance and impatience at your posts.
Sometimes I experience boredom when you post the same thing over and over again. And at your vendetta driven comments.
Frustration and disapproval is probably an emotion experienced by many at your ludicrous comments.

So it's easier to use the rolling eyes emoji rather than expressing those emotions each time.

 

[johnny2007]

Any evidence of this?
And why drag it up in this thread?
How is it remotely connected to sexual abuse by grooming gangs?
Are you just pursuing an old vendetta against a non-existent poster?

If you have an issue with a non-existent poster, why not start your own thread on the issue instead of polluting another thread?

Why are you getting wind up?
You are not Himmy , or are you?
Evidence have been provided many many many times everybody knows that Himmy is a racist bigot in drags.

I don't think Johnny has the ability to do joined-up thinking.

Coming from you, this is a compliment.

Johnny just wants to pollute another thread to vent his vendetta.

What is this got to do with you then?

Sexual abuse in boarding schools – change is urgently needed

Dino Nocivelli calls for boarding schools to lose their charitable status.

www.leighday.co.uk

Review of sexual abuse in schools and colleges

www.gov.uk

A year on from the launch of the Ofsted review into sexual abuse in schools and colleges – The Education Hub

In response to the murder of Sarah Everard, and the release of thousands of testimonies of incidents of sexual harassment via the Everyone’s Invited website, we rapidly put funding in place for the NSPCC to create a bespoke helpline to

educationhub.blog.gov.uk

https://www.iicsa.org.uk/reports-recommendations/publications/investigation/residential-schools/part-c-boarding-schools/c2-additional-risks-boarding-schools.html

The problem is not an ethnic, nor religious, nor geographical problem:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0145213423001357

This is just a short snapshot of sexual abuse in Boarding schools there;'s many, many more.
Then there's religious institutions, children's homes, orphanages, Young Offenders Institutions, Foster Homes, etc.

You are too retarded to understand the difference, so I'm not going to explain it to you again.

I think you're wrong....... to expect some posters on here to have a small degree of honour.

They just don't want their bigoted assumptions to be disproved.

Here comes the preacher of honour and transparency

 

[Knave of Hearts]

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The difference between the sex offenders and the organised groups logistically planning their dirty acts remains.
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Please explain the difference between three white grooming gang sexual abusers and some other Asian grooming gang abusers.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Regret what? They didn't do anything wrong they had no choice.......

Do you understand the use of the 'if', 'then' is a correlative conjunction in a sentence?
The sentence does not make sense if you use only the 'if' part of the sentence.
I suggest you stick to using English in your comments, otherwise they become intelligible.

 

[pete01]

Do you understand the use of the 'if', 'then' is a correlative conjunction in a sentence?
The sentence does not make sense if you use only the 'if' part of the sentence.
I suggest you stick to using English in your comments, otherwise they become intelligible.

You don't half talk some rubbish Tom

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Why are you getting wind up?
You are not Himmy , or are you?
Evidence have been provided many many many times everybody knows that Himmy is a racist bigot in drags.

So provide it for my benefit.
Or a link to this apparent evidence, so I can judge for myself.
Otherwise why should I take your word as evidence?

Coming from you, this is a compliment.

Can we dispense with the vendetta driven abuse and discuss the topic of the thread?

What is this got to do with you then?

See my response above.

You are too retarded to understand the difference, so I'm not going to explain it to you again.

If you haven't done something once yet, it's not possible to do 'it' again.
So why not try doing it for the first time?

Here comes the preacher of honour and transparency

I had that problem once, and for the life of me, i couldn't work out what was wrong with my PC, then I realised my desk blotter was caught on my keyboard.

But I do agree with you about transparency. On the odd occasion you present an argument, your arguments are easily seen through.
Usually all we get is a constant diatribe of abuse.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

You don't half talk some rubbish Tom

Just because you can't understand what I'm saying doesn't make it rubbish.
It's just gibberish to you because of your inability to understand it.

 

[pete01]

Just because you can't understand what I'm saying doesn't make it rubbish.
It's just gibberish to you because of your inability to understand it.

OK Tom keep your hair on....

Ps.... that seems like gibberish to me

 

[johnny2007]

Please explain the difference between three white grooming gang sexual abusers and some other Asian grooming gang abusers.

Numbers.
But unfortunately that's an alien concept to you.

So provide it for my benefit.
Or a link to this apparent evidence, so I can judge for myself.
Otherwise why should I take your word as evidence?

YOu said you're very good at searching old threads.
Do it yourself then, I'm not your servant.

 

[aveatry]

As I understand it none of the survivor group have been called liars. They claim they have been called liars.
There's the subtle

The point you are missing is THEY feel they are being called liars. Just like other verbal abuse it doesn't matter if you didn't intend to offend as its the person receiving the abuse that counts. You are subjecting the women to exactly the same thing that allowed their abuse to go on.
This is what they have said themselves abut Philips.
: "Being publicly contradicted and dismissed by a government minister when you are a survivor telling the truth takes you right back to that feeling of not being believed all over again.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Numbers.
But unfortunately that's an alien concept to you.

The reports mention 1000's of victims, 100's of perpetrators in dozens of schools.. But I don't suppose you read the reports and articles that I presented.
And I haven't presented any reports or articles looking at other institutions.
So I suggest you start counting before making silly comments'

YOu said you're very good at searching old threads.
Do it yourself then, I'm not your servant.

You are making the accusations, it's your responsibility to present your evidence.
You can't make accusations and then expect others to find the evidence for you. Well, in your world maybe that's normal, but it's not normal in the real world.
Otherwise one has to naturally assume there is no such evidence.

Imagine a silly scenario, where you are accused of a crime, and the police ask you to find evidence to prove you committed the crime.
It's so utterly ludicrous it's bizarre.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

The point you are missing is THEY feel they are being called liars. Just like other verbal abuse it doesn't matter if you didn't intend to offend as its the person receiving the abuse that counts. You are subjecting the women to exactly the same thing that allowed their abuse to go on.
This is what they have said themselves abut Philips.
: "Being publicly contradicted and dismissed by a government minister when you are a survivor telling the truth takes you right back to that feeling of not being believed all over again.

So the 'liar' allegation is only their perception, and no-one has actually called them liars.
Got there in the end.

Perhaps they discussed it among themselves, as the confidentiality agreement asked them not to, and a 'group think' developed?
So my comment that they appeared to have formed a cabal applies accurately.

I vehemently reject the accusation that I am subjecting the survivors to any kind of abuse, or dismissing their experience of abuse.
But this is the type of argument that we have come to expect from you.

In my opinion, they have formed an opinion of what the enquiry's conclusion should, be, and they don't want to participate in a wider enquiry that will uncover other incidences of abuse, and will benefit the potential victims of abuse in the future.
They don't like the direction the enquiry is going in because it is a national enquiry, not one limited simply to their experiences of abuse.
So they resigned.
Supporting their decision is OK, if it was their decision, but as Jim Gamble remarked it's become a political football and is in danger of failing those people it was designed to benefit.
It's yet another example of exploiting an issue to score political points.