Trumps attack on Iran - 2026 edition

How will the upcoming attack on Iran go.


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With hindsight Filly’s observations seem like propaganda

With hindsight, I'd like to have seen regime change, that's clearly not to be at the moment but the nuclear deal (without sunset clauses like the Obama deal) sounds solid enough.

 
With hindsight, I'd like to have seen regime change, that's clearly not to be at the moment but the nuclear deal (without sunset clauses like the Obama deal) sounds solid enough.

5 short paragraphs on nuclear weapons, one of which starts “The method to manage the material is unclear”.

That definitely sounds solid enough.
 
With hindsight, I'd like to have seen regime change, that's clearly not to be at the moment but the nuclear deal (without sunset clauses like the Obama deal) sounds solid enough.

I don't think he went to war to improve on O'bama's deal
 
5 short paragraphs on nuclear weapons, one of which starts “The method to manage the material is unclear”.

That definitely sounds solid enough.

Iran has agreed to not procure or buy a nuclear weapon, and both sides have agreed to deal with the enriched uranium Tehran already has.

The method to manage the material is unclear. The document notes that the mechanism "will be mutually agreed upon" in subsequent talks, but that, at a minimum, it will be "downblended" in place under the supervision of the International Atomic Energy Agency, or IAEA.

A senior US official described this as a "minimum standard" and a "major win" for the US.

Trump has said that preventing Iran from having a nuclear weapon was "99%" of what he wanted by launching Operation Epic Fury earlier this year.

Because the US has described the deal as performance-based, the sanctions relief specified in point 7 is tied to Iran complying with point 8.
 
The text for the nuclear stuff is just a shortened version of the JOPCA (aka Obama) deal. Iran are just getting that back but with better conditions.

Iran promising not to build nukes is easy for them, they were promising that before the war.
 
Trump has made a complete hash of all of this and is clutching at any straw in order to claim a victory. Nothing that he has done is anything that wasn't already done before he started it. The sooner that man is out of the Whitehouse the safer the world will be.
 
The text for the nuclear stuff is just a shortened version of the JOPCA (aka Obama) deal. Iran are just getting that back but with better conditions.

Iran promising not to build nukes is easy for them, they were promising that before the war.

Really? Iran's stockpile is currently estimated at 440 kilos enriched to 60%, a fraction below weapons grade.

A. ENRICHMENT, ENRICHMENT R&D, STOCKPILES 1. Iran's long term plan includes certain agreed limitations on all uranium enrichment and uranium enrichment-related activities including certain limitations on specific research and development (R&D) activities for the first 8 years, to be followed by gradual evolution, at a reasonable pace, to the next stage of its enrichment activities for exclusively peaceful purposes, as described in Annex I. Iran will abide by its voluntary commitments, as expressed in its own long-term enrichment and enrichment R&D plan to be submitted as part of the initial declaration for the Additional Protocol to Iran’s Safeguards Agreement. 2. Iran will begin phasing out its IR-1 centrifuges in 10 years. During this period, Iran will keep its enrichment capacity at Natanz at up to a total installed uranium enrichment capacity of 5060 IR-1 centrifuges. Excess centrifuges and enrichmentrelated infrastructure at Natanz will be stored under IAEA continuous monitoring, as specified in Annex I. 3. Iran will continue to conduct enrichment R&D in a manner that does not accumulate enriched uranium. Iran's enrichment R&D with uranium for 10 years will only include IR-4, IR-5, IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuges as laid out in Annex I, and Iran will not engage in other isotope separation technologies for enrichment of uranium as specified in Annex I. Iran will continue testing IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuges, and will commence testing of up to 30 IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuges after eight and a half years, as detailed in Annex I. 4. As Iran will be phasing out its IR-1 centrifuges, it will not manufacture or assemble other centrifuges, except as provided for in Annex I, and will replace failed centrifuges with centrifuges of the same type. Iran will manufacture advanced centrifuge machines only for the purposes specified in this JCPOA. From the end of the eighth year, and as described in Annex I, Iran will start to manufacture agreed numbers of IR-6 and IR-8 centrifuge machines without rotors and will store all of the manufactured machines at Natanz, under IAEA continuous monitoring until they are needed under Iran's long-term enrichment and enrichment R&D plan. 6 5. Based on its own long-term plan, for 15 years, Iran will carry out its uranium enrichment-related activities, including safeguarded R&D exclusively in the Natanz Enrichment facility, keep its level of uranium enrichment at up to 3.67%, and, at Fordow, refrain from any uranium enrichment and uranium enrichment R&D and from keeping any nuclear material. 6. Iran will convert the Fordow facility into a nuclear, physics and technology centre. International collaboration including in the form of scientific joint partnerships will be established in agreed areas of research. 1044 IR-1 centrifuges in six cascades will remain in one wing at Fordow. Two of these cascades will spin without uranium and will be transitioned, including through appropriate infrastructure modification, for stable isotope production. The other four cascades with all associated infrastructure will remain idle. All other centrifuges and enrichment-related infrastructure will be removed and stored under IAEA continuous monitoring as specified in Annex I. 7. During the 15 year period, and as Iran gradually moves to meet international qualification standards for nuclear fuel produced in Iran, it will keep its uranium stockpile under 300 kg of up to 3.67% enriched uranium hexafluoride (UF6) or the equivalent in other chemical forms. The excess quantities are to be sold based on international prices and delivered to the international buyer in return for natural uranium delivered to Iran, or are to be down-blended to natural uranium level. Enriched uranium in fabricated fuel assemblies from Russia or other sources for use in Iran's nuclear reactors will not be counted against the above stated 300 kg UF6 stockpile, if the criteria set out in Annex I are met with regard to other sources. The Joint Commission will support assistance to Iran, including through IAEA technical cooperation as appropriate, in meeting international qualification standards for nuclear fuel produced in Iran. All remaining uranium oxide enriched to between 5% and 20% will be fabricated into fuel for the Tehran Research Reactor (TRR). Any additional fuel needed for the TRR will be made available to Iran at international market prices. B. ARAK, HEAVY WATER, REPROCESSING 8. Iran will redesign and rebuild a modernised heavy water research reactor in Arak, based on an agreed conceptual design, using fuel enriched up to 3.67 %, in a form of an international partnership which will certify the final design. The reactor will support peaceful nuclear research and radioisotope production for medical and industrial purposes. The redesigned and rebuilt Arak reactor will not produce 7 weapons grade plutonium. Except for the first core load, all of the activities for redesigning and manufacturing of the fuel assemblies for the redesigned reactor will be carried out in Iran. All spent fuel from Arak will be shipped out of Iran for the lifetime of the reactor. This international partnership will include participating E3/EU+3 parties, Iran and such other countries as may be mutually determined. Iran will take the leadership role as the owner and as the project manager and the E3/EU+3 and Iran will, before Implementation Day, conclude an official document which would define the responsibilities assumed by the E3/EU+3 participants. 9. Iran plans to keep pace with the trend of international technological advancement in relying on light water for its future power and research reactors with enhanced international cooperation, including assurance of supply of necessary fuel. 10. There will be no additional heavy water reactors or accumulation of heavy water in Iran for 15 years. All excess heavy water will be made available for export to the international market. 11. Iran intends to ship out all spent fuel for all future and present power and research nuclear reactors, for further treatment or disposition as provided for in relevant contracts to be duly concluded with the recipient party. 12. For 15 years Iran will not, and does not intend to thereafter, engage in any spent fuel reprocessing or construction of a facility capable of spent fuel reprocessing, or reprocessing R&D activities leading to a spent fuel reprocessing capability, with the sole exception of separation activities aimed exclusively at the production of medical and industrial radio-isotopes from irradiated enriched uranium targets. C. TRANSPARENCY AND CONFIDENCE BUILDING MEASURES 13. Consistent with the respective roles of the President and Majlis (Parliament), Iran will provisionally apply the Additional Protocol to its Comprehensive Safeguards Agreement in accordance with Article 17(b) of the Additional Protocol, proceed with its ratification within the timeframe as detailed in Annex V and fully implement the modified Code 3.1 of the Subsidiary Arrangements to its Safeguards Agreement. 14. Iran will fully implement the "Roadmap for Clarification of Past and Present Outstanding Issues" agreed with the IAEA, containing arrangements to address past and present issues of concern relating to its nuclear programme as raised in the annex to the IAEA report of 8 November 2011 (GOV/2011/65). Full implementation 8 of activities undertaken under the Roadmap by Iran will be completed by 15 October 2015, and subsequently the Director General will provide by 15 December 2015 the final assessment on the resolution of all past and present outstanding issues to the Board of Governors, and the E3+3, in their capacity as members of the Board of Governors, will submit a resolution to the Board of Governors for taking necessary action, with a view to closing the issue, without prejudice to the competence of the Board of Governors. 15. Iran will allow the IAEA to monitor the implementation of the voluntary measures for their respective durations, as well as to implement transparency measures, as set out in this JCPOA and its Annexes. These measures include: a long-term IAEA presence in Iran; IAEA monitoring of uranium ore concentrate produced by Iran from all uranium ore concentrate plants for 25 years; containment and surveillance of centrifuge rotors and bellows for 20 years; use of IAEA approved and certified modern technologies including on-line enrichment measurement and electronic seals; and a reliable mechanism to ensure speedy resolution of IAEA access concerns for 15 years, as defined in Annex I. 16. Iran will not engage in activities, including at the R&D level, that could contribute to the development of a nuclear explosive device, including uranium or plutonium metallurgy activities, as specified in Annex I. 17. Iran will cooperate and act in accordance with the procurement channel in this JCPOA, as detailed in Annex IV, endorsed by the UN Security Council resolution.
 
Trump has made a complete hash of all of this and is clutching at any straw in order to claim a victory. Nothing that he has done is anything that wasn't already done before he started it. The sooner that man is out of the Whitehouse the safer the world will be.
Yep, the biggest regime change that is needed is in Washington!
 
You're right, I think he went to war to prevent Iran from ever getting a nuke and the deal suggests he has.
Isreal doesn't agree, and they have been thrown under the bus to get Trumpf out of the war
He didn't get regime change (yet) which is disappointing.
He has strengthened the regime. Irann has used his MAGGAs agaunst him.
 
Isreal doesn't agree, and they have been thrown under the bus to get Trumpf out of the war

From what I've read Israel aren't over the moon with the deal but nonetheless Hezbollah have been ordered not to fire on Israel and Israel have been ordered not to fire on Hezbollah.

If in the meantime Hezbollah decide to launch a few in Israel's direction, we both know that there will be a response.
 
If in the meantime Hezbollah decide to launch a few in Israel's direction, we both know that there will be a response.
And yet israel is happy to carry on with it's unprovoked attacks, and leveling villages/towns in the south of Lebanon...

Areas they are now saying they won't relinquish even after hostilities cease...

Sounds familiar?

So what would you do in the face of such illegal acts?

Turn up at a London event looking to invest in a property on stolen land?
 
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