'It's gone too far'

[Odds]

No need to shout, just say what you think in a normal tone. You are breaking rule No7. I thought I would bring that to your attention just in case you didn't realise, any further shouting will result in a report situation. You cannot overturn and reverse a democratic vote just because you did not win the vote. It is how democracy works and there would be little point in voting if we just then kept voting or reversing until we got the vote we wanted. That is a dictatorship so once again I have to school you on how democracy works. Sorry you feel that you were swindled out of something you didn't like. You will just have to put your big boy pants on and accept it. It has been 6 years now, get over it.

It doesn't look like an excessive use of bold lettering to me.

You cannot overturn the result but a fresh referendum based upon the obvious flaws in the decision and the affects of Bre*it are worthy of further consideration by the electorate...but the Leavers dare not do that.

 

[motorbiking]

https://rnli.org/about-us/our-work-in-the-channel

As a sailor you should be ashamed, utterly ashamed, at your attitude to them.

I regularly fund and assist in training with independent life boat crews who are increasingly breaking away from the RNLI due to their encouragement of illegal small boats.

Unfortunately, many no longer support the RNLi due to the taxi service they provide.

It’s not entirely their fault.

 

[Highway Man]

It doesn't look like an excessive use of bold lettering to me.

Well it wouldn't would it, unless I was using bold lettering of course.

You cannot overturn the result but a fresh referendum based upon the obvious flaws in the decision and the affects of Bre*it are worthy of further consideration by the electorate...but the Leavers dare not do that.

It was a democratic vote and I accept the vote regardless to my personal views on it. If it were put to the vote again then perhaps the vote would go the other way, we will never know so best leave it as it stands, a democratic and fair result.

 

[Odds]

I regularly fund and assist in training with independent life boat crews who are increasingly breaking away from the RNLI due to their encouragement of illegal small boats.

Unfortunately, many no longer support the RNLi due to the taxi service they provide.

Another untruth from the chicken boater...

It’s not entirely their fault.

After the RNLI controversially withdrew the village's lifeboat in St Abbs, Scotland, the local community and crew fundraised to purchase their own independent vessel. The station officially launched its independent boat, The Thomas Tunnock, in 2016 and remains the "heartbeat" of the village

Following a bitter dispute regarding the sacking and reinstatement of a local coxswain in St Helier, Jersey: the volunteer crew asked to split from the RNLI. The RNLI subsequently closed the station, prompting the former crew to establish the fully independent Jersey Lifeboat Association (JLA), which received official maritime approval in 2019.


Nothing to do with illegal migrants.

 

[motorbiking]

Which bit do you claim is untrue.

My donations or my involvement?

You think one example of an independent life boat is applicable to all? A weak argument even by your standards.

Educate yourself

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[Odds]

Which bit do you claim is untrue.

My donations or my involvement?

You think one example of an independent life boat is applicable to all? A weak argument even by your standards.

Educate yourself

Home - NILA

Welcome Find out moreNational Independent Lifeboat Association is a charity that was formed in 2022 to promote and support independent lifeboats across the UK

nila.org.uk

Well, it was two examples and you give the impression the RNLI is at loggerheads with crews over the migrant issue when the truth looks very diff.

 

[motorbiking]

It would be odd for a crew in Scotland and another in Jersey to have an opinion on the impact of the RNLIs taxi service.

If you are going to argue something is untrue, you might want to understand the facts before you jump in face first.

 

[fillyboy]

I (famously) stopped my donations some time ago now and knew plenty of boaters who did likewise.

I say famously because it caused considerable outrage on this forum, particularly by people who had never donated to the RNLI.

 

[Odds]

It would be odd for a crew in Scotland and another in Jersey to have an opinion on the impact of the RNLIs taxi service.

If you are going to argue something is untrue, you might want to understand the facts before you jump in face first.

It's a NATIONAL organisation. Fact.

 

[morqthana]

No need to shout, just say what you think in a normal tone.

I've tried that, but you seem not to be seeing what I'm writing.

You cannot overturn and reverse a democratic vote just because you did not win the vote.

That depends on what you mean by "overturn and reverse". Democratically campaigning for a democratic reversal is surely OK. If not, then the 2016 referendum was an undemocratic reversal and overturning of the 1975 one.

It is how democracy works and there would be little point in voting if we just then kept voting or reversing until we got the vote we wanted. That is a dictatorship so once again I have to school you on how democracy works. Sorry you feel that you were swindled out of something you didn't like. You will just have to put your big boy pants on and accept it. It has been 6 years now, get over it.

It truly beggars belief that you think you can keep on pretending that before the 2016 vote Nigel Farage said that if Remain won there would be resentment, particularly in the Conservative Party, with claims the referendum was not a fair contest, and that "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way."

It truly beggars belief that you think you can keep on pretending that therefore those people campaigning for the decision to leave to be revisited are not doing exactly what the Leave campaign had said they would do if the vote had gone 52:48 against them.

If it's OK for one side to say that losing by a narrow margin would be "unfinished business", then it's OK for the other side.

Do you know what a hypocrite is?

 

[morqthana]

I regularly fund and assist in training with independent life boat crews who are increasingly breaking away from the RNLI due to their encouragement of illegal small boats.

Unfortunately, many no longer support the RNLi due to the taxi service they provide.

It’s not entirely their fault.

Shameful - utterly, and foully shameful.

 

[ellal]

I (famously) stopped my donations some time ago now and knew plenty of boaters who did likewise.

I say famously because it caused considerable outrage on this forum, particularly by people who had never donated to the RNLI.

Well you and they won't be calling for a 'taxi ride' if it was ever needed...

At least you'll have 'saved money'

 

[morqthana]

I (famously) stopped my donations some time ago now and knew plenty of boaters who did likewise.

I say famously because it caused considerable outrage on this forum, particularly by people who had never donated to the RNLI.

Of course it did, because your actions, and motivation, were shameful.

Your message to the RNLI was "I'm not donating to you any more because I think you should be leaving asylum seekers to drown, not saving them".

 

[Highway Man]

I've tried that, but you seem not to be seeing what I'm writing.




That depends on what you mean by "overturn and reverse". Democratically campaigning for a democratic reversal is surely OK. If not, then the 2016 referendum was an undemocratic reversal and overturning of the 1975 one.




It truly beggars belief that you think you can keep on pretending that before the 2016 vote Nigel Farage said that if Remain won there would be resentment, particularly in the Conservative Party, with claims the referendum was not a fair contest, and that "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way."

It truly beggars belief that you think you can keep on pretending that therefore those people campaigning for the decision to leave to be revisited are not doing exactly what the Leave campaign had said they would do if the vote had gone 52:48 against them.

If it's OK for one side to say that losing by a narrow margin would be "unfinished business", then it's OK for the other side.

Do you know what a hypocrite is?

I have come to terms and accepted the decision right or wrong. It is right for the majority of people who voted and unfortunately wrong for those who voted to remain. It doesn't get any more simple than that. Now how many times must we vote to get the decision reversed? What if it was put to the vote again and it still was voted to leave, how many times are you going to put the same argument across. It doesn't affect you half as bad as you make it out to, so why keep this bitterness going and torture yourself.

 

[morqthana]

I have come to terms and accepted the decision right or wrong. It is right for the majority of people who voted and unfortunately wrong for those who voted to remain. It doesn't get any more simple than that.

Nor does the fact that criticising one side for doing exactly what the other side said would be the right thing to do if positions were reversed is hypocrisy.