Best Emulsion Paint Q

spynage · 4 Aug 2013

Probably this has been posted before.

I want to use the best emulsion paint for my client, but I'm also cost conscious. Im happy with the dulux stuff. Leyland seems to me to be a reasonable and cheaper alternative. Am I missing something?

You can pick up the leyland paint for £15 a litre in bulk from this company. Seems like a great deal.

http://www.decoratingwarehouse.co.u...emulsion/576?gclid=CJyy9NPM47gCFXHMtAodr18ABg

dcdec · 4 Aug 2013

Your being paid to do a job and you don't know how to spec it?

spynage · 5 Aug 2013

I think the question speaks for itself.

joe-90 · 5 Aug 2013

It sure does.

spynage · 5 Aug 2013

It means you don't know. You have not a clue between Leyland and Dulux, although there is a significant price difference.

dcdec · 6 Aug 2013

Your the clueless one spynage, if you had even the slightest idea of what you're doing you'd spot that the leyland is a contract emulsion and thats the reason why its cheap. I suggest you go back to Macdonalds and get your old job back.

spynage · 6 Aug 2013

Thanks for your insight and not the sarcastic response. Too much.. I make a good living from decorating and I also employ decorators who I can normally discuss issues with.
We have to water down the Dulux anyway. So aware that the only person loosing perhaps because of the coverage of the paint is me why not get a further opinion on it's quality from other tradespeople? So it's an inferior paint. In what terms? Is it going to flake off the wall in no time? Probably not. Will it require more work for coverage? Maybe. Simple questions to answer if you have any insight instead of picking to pieces a straightforward question.

You'd think I was trying to flog you Leyland Paint, when in fact I'm conscious of getting the best result for my customer whilst potentially saving myself a few bob or providing a more competitive quote. What's wrong with that?

dcdec · 6 Aug 2013

Whats right about it? Knowing the differences between a contract emulsion and a vinyl matt is something i would expect an apprentice to know. Contract by any manufacturer is a poor choice of paint for pretty much anything other than ceilings, mist coats and tosh jobs, it is used by contractors regularly because of price, if you want to provide your client with a quality paint you wouldn't even consider a contract emulsion, the fact that with your 'experience' you don't know this is astonishing. You won't know about solids content, natural or synthetic pigments, acrylic resin content, vinyl content, pigment grinding and film thickness, well you should because these are factors that dictate the quality of paint not solely how many coats it takes to cover. What about specifying the right coatings for the application? would you even know where to start?, your questions unequivocally suggest not, which is extremely poor for a guy calling himself and earning a 'good' living as a decorator.

spynage · 7 Aug 2013

More insights thanks. You'll be shocked to learn that decorating unlike other trades such as electrical services isn't a regulated industry. Therefore anyone entrepreneurial enough with the right customer service skills can undertake a decorating project. The only constraint being the satisfaction of the customer. All being well then said decorator can continue to make a business as a decorator learning on the job as they go, if it suits them.

I have been in the building trade for over 10 years. I've become a proficient decorator since then. I don't know everything but as I seem to make a better and better living from it I think I must be doing something right.
These days you'll find an army of inexperienced decorators, and builders out there particularly in big cities offering their services for hire. Why? Because theres a demand for it which is why in particular your east european immigrant flocks to this country because they know theres an abundance of this work. Thats the reality of the industry these days.
I know after 10 years I can provide a pretty decent decorating service. 99% of my work will be internal emulsion and or acrylic on existing painted wood, which I prefer.
If I'm taking the trouble to go online to ask an opinion for greater insight I'm not going to apologise for it. It's all part of the learning process. There are other ways to learn you know other than doing a city and guilds.

So if I want an anecdotal opinion of a paint from someone in the business I'll ask. If you were in business for yourself then you'd understand the reality of work and business. If I can get a good quality paint for £1.50 a litre then I want to know if it's worth it. You've still given me no real world insight into this Leyland contract paint so it's fair to assume you've never used it. Probably thousands of gallons of the stuff are being sold and this company is selling it by the half a ton so that's not your average DIY'er buying it!

gnvqsos · 7 Sep 2013

dcdec said:
Whats right about it? Knowing the differences between a contract emulsion and a vinyl matt is something i would expect an apprentice to know. Contract by any manufacturer is a poor choice of paint for pretty much anything other than ceilings, mist coats and tosh jobs, it is used by contractors regularly because of price, if you want to provide your client with a quality paint you wouldn't even consider a contract emulsion, the fact that with your 'experience' you don't know this is astonishing. You won't know about solids content, natural or synthetic pigments, acrylic resin content, vinyl content, pigment grinding and film thickness, well you should because these are factors that dictate the quality of paint not solely how many coats it takes to cover. What about specifying the right coatings for the application? would you even know where to start?, your questions unequivocally suggest not, which is extremely poor for a guy calling himself and earning a 'good' living as a decorator.

The terms contract,trade etc.have no legal meaning.This means your argument lacks validity but I have enjoyed reading your comments.You sound like someone who enjoys reading food labels.

gnvqsos · 7 Sep 2013

spynage said:
More insights thanks. You'll be shocked to learn that decorating unlike other trades such as electrical services isn't a regulated industry. Therefore anyone entrepreneurial enough with the right customer service skills can undertake a decorating project. The only constraint being the satisfaction of the customer. All being well then said decorator can continue to make a business as a decorator learning on the job as they go, if it suits them.

I have been in the building trade for over 10 years. I've become a proficient decorator since then. I don't know everything but as I seem to make a better and better living from it I think I must be doing something right.
These days you'll find an army of inexperienced decorators, and builders out there particularly in big cities offering their services for hire. Why? Because theres a demand for it which is why in particular your east european immigrant flocks to this country because they know theres an abundance of this work. Thats the reality of the industry these days.
I know after 10 years I can provide a pretty decent decorating service. 99% of my work will be internal emulsion and or acrylic on existing painted wood, which I prefer.
If I'm taking the trouble to go online to ask an opinion for greater insight I'm not going to apologise for it. It's all part of the learning process. There are other ways to learn you know other than doing a city and guilds.

So if I want an anecdotal opinion of a paint from someone in the business I'll ask. If you were in business for yourself then you'd understand the reality of work and business. If I can get a good quality paint for £1.50 a litre then I want to know if it's worth it. You've still given me no real world insight into this Leyland contract paint so it's fair to assume you've never used it. Probably thousands of gallons of the stuff are being sold and this company is selling it by the half a ton so that's not your average DIY'er buying it!

You are right-anyone can purport to be a decorator.

gnvqsos · 3 Aug 2014

dcdec said:
Your being paid to do a job and you don't know how to spec it?

I think you have identified the purpose of a forum where ideas can be exchanged and expertise shared.

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