ICE told to get the eff out

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very sad, but why would you carry a gun and get in to a scuffle with someone who has the lawful authority to use deadly force if they feel their life is in danger.
I think he had intentions to kill a few of them, why two full magazines otherwise?
 
I also think his intention was not to just take a few of them out but to then take his own life with the last bullet, only the last part in his plan went the way he expected.
 
I also think his intention was not to just take a few of them out but to then take his own life with the last bullet, only the last part in his plan went the way he expected.
Are you on the magic mushrooms again?
 
I think he had intentions to kill a few of them, why two full magazines otherwise?

Common sense. Experienced hand gun owners will normally carry a spare magazine in case the first magazine malfunctions. It is the biggest point of failure.
 
Common sense. Experienced hand gun owners will normally carry a spare magazine in case the first magazine malfunctions. It is the biggest point of failure.

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: yes can't have that happening at a demonstration.
 
very sad, but why would you carry a gun and get in to a scuffle with someone who has the lawful authority to use deadly force if they feel their life is in danger.
You must have been watching different videos...

Nothing he did was illegal, and as for 'life in danger'....

Pinned down after being pepper sprayed and then executed...

Where at any stage can you point out where any ICE thug was in danger?
 
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: yes can't have that happening at a demonstration.

You're not thinking it through. Ask yourself, why do people carry handguns is the USA. They claim it is for self-defence. If somebody always carries a handgun for self-defence, why would it be any different just because they are attending a protest.

And here is another question for you. Which of the people below attending a protest do you imagine was labelled as a hero and a patriot by the Trump administration, and which one was labelled a terrorist:

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Common sense. Experienced hand gun owners will normally carry a spare magazine in case the first magazine malfunctions. It is the biggest point of failure.
So his intent was to use it then?
 
You're not thinking it through. Ask yourself, why do people carry handguns is the USA. They claim it is for self-defence. If somebody always carries a handgun for self-defence, why would it be any different just because they are attending a protest.

And here is another question for you. Which of the people below attending a protest do you imagine was labelled as a hero and a patriot by the Trump administration, and which one was labelled a terrorist:

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I know exactly who the hero were, it wasn't the one your backing
 
So his intent was to use it then?

I don't really understand why people carry hand guns. But most claim it is for self defence. It is just part of the normal daily attire for these people. They carry them everywhere. It's a very different country.
 
Was he resisting?
Was he armed?
Was he under control?

What else do we need to consider?

It is not clear what are you trying to determine.

But the answers are:

No
Yes at first, but disarmed by the time he was shot.
Yes
 
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It is not clear what are you trying to determine.
if it was or could be lawful use of deadly force, obviously
But the answers are:

No
The video I have watched shows a person interfering, getting sprayed, trying to stop someone else being apprehended and then getting taken down and resisting every step of the way - In his defence, while I have no experience of it, I imagine a face full of pepper spray would make you like that.
Yes at first, but disarmed by the time he was shot.
they did not know he was disarmed, they knew he had at least 1 hand gun and two clips
in handcuffs or pinned down?

New consideration:
- the officials claim he had no ID. The permit to carry is ID, so does that mean he was not carrying his permit to carry?

Why would a person not bring iD to an ICE enforcement, surely he would know he might need to 1 show lawful authority to carry and 2 that he was a US citizen.
 
This video is interesting

watch the girl with the pink rucksack and the woman in the tan brown coat. These are not "observers".
 
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