ICE told to get the eff out

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Minnesota has very few undocumented immigrants. And only a tiny percentage of those are the serious criminals they claim to want to arrest. There has been immigration enforcement in Minneapolis for years, and nobody heard anything about it. They don't need to lock down the city with thousands of officers. This could have been done properly. But Trump wants to create a spectacle and anger and a confrontation.

The problem is the way they are going about enforcement. All this military garb and masks should be banned. ICE has had a gigantic increase in funding to buy equipment such as armoured cars. But they claim they can't afford to buy body cams. Everything they do is a lie.

The other problem is that they are intentionally recruiting the far right. And then giving them just eight weeks training, rather than six months as previously. Before throwing them into a powder keg which they have created on purpose. Plus they tell them they have immunity to do whatever they want.
 
Minnesota has very few undocumented immigrants. And only a tiny percentage of those are the serious criminals they claim to want to arrest. There has been immigration enforcement in Minneapolis for years, and nobody heard anything about it. They don't need to lock down the city with thousands of officers. This could have been done properly. But Trump wants to create a spectacle and anger and a confrontation.

The problem is the way they are going about enforcement. All this military garb and masks should be banned. ICE has had a gigantic increase in funding to buy equipment such as armoured cars. But they claim they can't afford to buy body cams. Everything they do is a lie.

The other problem is that they are intentionally recruiting the far right. And then giving them just eight weeks training, rather than six months as previously. Before throwing them into a powder keg which they have created on purpose. Plus they tell them they have immunity to do whatever they want.
Yes best to stay out of the way of them isn't it. They sound like psycho's by your description of them.
 
Reports coming out suggesting Greg Bovino (border patrol chief) has been relieved of his command.
 
You missed the earlier scuffle then? Sh*t was definitely brewing

Scuffle implies it went both ways. The officer took offence at being videoed and started violently pushing the observers who passively accepted and didn't push back.

NY Times have done an updated frame by frame analysis. If they are correct, the accidental discharge theory is wrong. They say the first shot was a shot in the back from the agent in green at the exact moment below. They reckon you can see his arm recoil.

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One interesting video analysis explained that all the buildings visible in the street in this incident house fake businesses run by Somalians. Each one has defrauded a 7-figure sum from American public money.

It is like what we have here with Turkish barbers and takeaways, but on much bigger, super-sized American scale.

And another thing... Scof=Himmy.
Dork Lard surely?
 
Scuffle implies it went both ways. The officer took offence at being videoed and started violently pushing the observers who passively accepted and didn't push back.

NY Times have done an updated frame by frame analysis. If they are correct, the accidental discharge theory is wrong. They say the first shot was a shot in the back from the agent in green at the exact moment below. They reckon you can see his arm recoil.

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Scuffle is conveniently ambiguous. You mean when the thug started shoving or when the thug sprayed his face?
No he resisted being pushed back.

I can’t see the point of pretending he was more innocent than he was. You have to be objective and see that he was getting in the way, that he took a loaded weapon to the location, argued with ICE etc. May or may not have been carrying ID (a requirement for lawful concealed carry). Of course I do not change my view that there is a good case for excessive force.
 
No he resisted being pushed back.

I can’t see the point of pretending he was more innocent than he was. You have to be objective and see that he was getting in the way, that he took a loaded weapon to the location, argued with ICE etc. May or may not have been carrying ID (a requirement for lawful concealed carry). Of course I do not change my view that there is a good case for excessive force.

He didn't resist. He let the agent push him in the chest and was completely passive, letting himself be pushed back about twenty feet. The only time he interfered was later on, in order to try to help a woman who had been shoved to the floor.

He didn't get in the way. He was filming from a distance and the officer approached him and started to shove him.
 
No he resisted being pushed back.

I can’t see the point of pretending he was more innocent than he was. You have to be objective and see that he was getting in the way, that he took a loaded weapon to the location, argued with ICE etc. May or may not have been carrying ID (a requirement for lawful concealed carry). Of course I do not change my view that there is a good case for excessive force.

I read that if he wasn't carrying identification and a permit, his 'lawful carry' becomes 'unlawful', however there seems to be mixed stories about the ID with some reports saying he didn't have 'accessible ID' which is a little ambiguous.
Other opinions out there are that by violently resisting arrest, the 'lawful carry' again becomes 'unlawful'.
 
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