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I didn’t think you’d know the answer
ICE told to get the eff out
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I have just told you - sod all.
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That would be how much business you’d get once you’ve been undercut by 50%.
Illegal immigrants would affect my business, not one iota.
However, in Texas and Florida, their absence would be sorely felt. They are very useful contributors to the community.
And MBK, using his favourite deflective waffle tactic, introduces irrelevance to the thread - yet again.Take them all out of Texas and Florida and then see what happens. They serve a very useful purpose there.
- Undocumented immigrants fill essential labor needs in key industries, often taking jobs with high labor demands and in sectors experiencing shortages. In Florida, they account for large shares of workers in agriculture (60%), construction (23%), and building/maintenance (18%), while in Texas, they are concentrated in agriculture (54%), construction (28%), and landscaping services (51%).
- Tax Contributions: Undocumented immigrants pay billions of dollars annually in federal, state, and local taxes, including sales, excise, property, and income taxes. In 2022, they paid an estimated $4.9 billion in state and local taxes in Texas and $1.8 billion in Florida.
- Economic Growth and Spending Power: These individuals drive economic activity as consumers, with undocumented immigrant households nationwide having nearly $300 billion in spending power in 2023. Studies have found that the overall economic benefits of undocumented immigrants in Texas outweigh the costs to the state.
Hearing Wrap Up: Minnesota Governor Walz and Attorney General Ellison Ignored Rampant Taxpayer Fraud and Silenced State Whistleblowers - United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
Press ReleasePublished: Jan 7, 2026
Hearing Wrap Up: Minnesota Governor Walz and Attorney General Ellison Ignored Rampant Taxpayer Fraud and Silenced State Whistleblowers
WASHINGTON—Today, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform held a hearing titled “Oversight of Fraud and Misuse of Federal Funds in Minnesota: Part I.” Criminals in Minnesota have stolen an estimated $9 billion in taxpayer funds intended to feed children, support autistic children, house low-income and disabled Americans, and provide healthcare to vulnerable Medicaid recipients. Members of Congress and the Minnesota state lawmakers who testified described how many of these schemes were concentrated within the Minnesota’s Somali community, with some taxpayer dollars diverted to terrorist networks overseas. State lawmakers testified that Governor Tim Walz and Attorney General Keith Ellison failed to take action to address this widespread fraud and have retaliated against whistleblowers who raised concerns. As the Trump Administration continues its efforts to hold those responsible accountable, Congress must also pursue legislative solutions to better protect American taxpayers.
Key Takeaways:
Fraudsters stole an estimated $9 billion from Minnesota’s social services system, yet Governor Walz, Attorney General Ellison, and Minnesota Democrats ignored warnings, failed to act, and retaliated against whistleblowers.
The 98 people (so far) who have been charged over this type of fraud will be delighted.
$9 billion
It’s how modern Amerrica was founded. Trumpf’s grant for example.
There is historic fraud of about $250 million in Minnesotoa over the past few years.
There was one scheme involving a lot of Somalis. That is true
So far they have uncovered new fraud in the tens of millions.
Trying to blame $9bn on Somalis is utter nonsense and typical racist Trump tactics. The investigators have said that the Somali angle is something they are only 'vaguely' looking at. Fraud on government schemes across the USA is about $250bn a year. Nothing about Minnesota is that unusual.
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And still nobody can explain haw someone with no residency or right to work can pay income taxes, buy healthcare, insurance. Etc etc.
You have been told many times. You are just unwilling to listen.
How do you define a 'useful' member of society. If somebody works hard, doesn't commit any crimes, looks after their family, supports their friends and the community, then I would class them as useful. Most illegal workers actually do pay taxes, whilst being ineligible for benefits. It is a very different system to here. The USA is a massive country. For decades, it has been accepted with a nod and a wink and it has hugely benefited both sides.
