Trumps attack on Iran - 2026 edition

How will the upcoming attack on Iran go.

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Highway Man said:
This war is getting worse, I said a few days ago the Houthis will get involved and potentialy close off the red sea to Saudi oil,. Looks like this is happening, so glad now I have two EVs as I reckon we are in for petrol shortages. Next move the UAE will get involved.
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Trumpf’s naivety was highlighted when he thought he’d get a deal with Pootin on Ukrane. Likewise here he’s upping the ante and Irann will dig in. Isreal is about to be shafted by its ally as it can’t go it alone.
 
transam said:
Get yer medication checked out or go and see the doc and get some medication

You got anger management issues noseall ? Are your neighbours safe ? Blimey perhaps some of em voted Tory !!!! Or even reform ? And woe betide any of em that voted brexit ??

Jeez us your not a fire arms licence holder are you noseall

Yes exactly ( scary )
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I'm pretty certain you're a Brexit voting traitor.
 
blup said:
Trumpf’s naivety was highlighted when he thought he’d get a deal with Pootin on Ukrane. Likewise here he’s upping the ante and Irann will dig in. Isreal is about to be shafted by its ally as it can’t go it alone.
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I wouldn't trust Trump unless he wants something from anyone. His constant talk of deals are becoming tiresome now. He needs to get out of this Iran caper before he really does some damage to the world. He has control of the worlds largest and most capable military machine but has no idea of how to use it. It must be frustrating for the commanders and generals to legally have to follow his orders knowing the grave errors of his judgement. Not sure of the legality of them having to follow his orders but pretty sure that they will have to.
 
Brigadier said:
.... is because he is an actual moron. His metaphorical toolbox contains only a hammer and....... another hammer.
His intellect is more limited than his vocabulary.
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The worrying thing is, I don't think there is any stopping him now. He seemed so level headed when he first got into power, Saying he isnt going to get involved in any more wars and is the president of peace. Jeez thank god he isnt a warmonger.. An analogy of him so far is like me taking a race horse out for a country stroll.
 
Highway Man said:
I wouldn't trust Trump unless he wants something from anyone. His constant talk of deals are becoming tiresome now. He needs to get out of this Iran caper before he really does some damage to the world. He has control of the worlds largest and most capable military machine but has no idea of how to use it. It must be frustrating for the commanders and generals to legally have to follow his orders knowing the grave errors of his judgement. Not sure of the legality of them having to follow his orders but pretty sure that they will have to.
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It’s a tough one, do you get shot for not following orders or wait until your side loses and get shot for following them. I imagine the Geneva convention protects the ordinary soldier
 
blup said:
It’s a tough one, do you get shot for not following orders or wait until your side loses and get shot for following them. I imagine the Geneva convention protects the ordinary soldier
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Depends on the orders, if the orders were to do something you shouldnt do then you can refuse the order. I think generals have to follow orders from the president.
 
Highway Man said:
Depends on the orders, if the orders were to do something you shouldnt do then you can refuse the order. I think generals have to follow orders from the president.
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Google says;
Military personnel are obligated to obey only lawful orders, as their oath is to the Constitution, not the President personally. They are legally required to refuse orders that are manifestly illegal.
 
Stivino said:
Google says;
Military personnel are obligated to obey only lawful orders, as their oath is to the Constitution, not the President personally. They are legally required to refuse orders that are manifestly illegal.
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What is illegal about this war for a general to refuse the orders of Trump?
 
Stivino said:
Google says;
Military personnel are obligated to obey only lawful orders, as their oath is to the Constitution, not the President personally. They are legally required to refuse orders that are manifestly illegal.
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To be fair, you seem to have a strange version of google that tells you striking buildings/infrastructure used for military purposes is a war crime. It isn't, the subject is well covered by the UN and International law.

Whilst US soldiers make their oath to the constitution, to support and defend the constitution, bear true faith and allegiance to it, and obey the orders of the President and their superiors.

So, once again, you're talking ***t.
 
Stivino said:
It doesn't matter if the war is illegal, or not. It is whether or not the order is legal.
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You are talking ridiculous. A soldier can refuse an order that is illegal, a general obeys the president to attack a country, he is not concerned over the legality at this stage, do you think they have sent aircraft carriers and troops out to simply turn away saying they think it might be illegal. Perhaps you think they will be googling it as they go.
 
blup said:
Trumpf’s naivety was highlighted when he thought he’d get a deal with Pootin on Ukrane. Likewise here he’s upping the ante and Irann will dig in. Isreal is about to be shafted by its ally as it can’t go it alone.
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I disagree about Israel, they are more than capable of going it alone, they've proved that many times in the past. On every measurable metric Iran are losing the war, they're bringing in fighters from Iraq to help the IRGC as they have been so badly weakened, but get this, not to fight an army, simply to keep the civilian population under control.

The ace they're playing is the Hormuz strait, Saudi and UAE will get involved, The IRGC need to be crushed.

If Iran do succeed in making America fail, it's game over for the West. You guys should think about learning Chinese, Russian and Parsi, and stay well clear of London.
 
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