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    Upstairs block walls built straight on floorboards (50's)

    Hi, my house was built in the 50's, I've recently been doing a lot of redecorating, plumbing e.t.c. and realized that the upstairs block walls are built straight onto the floor boards. What I'm concerned about, is, there are two walls spaced around 2ft apart which form a closet dividing two...
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    The nanny state is only out there to make money by imposing ridiculous rules and regulations on people that fundamentally cost more money. Nobody cares if people are actually any better off, and they neglect the simple common sense things that actually make a difference.
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    the statistics are in. US: 30,000 non-fatal electric shocks each year, 60 electrocutions. UK: 2.5million!!! electric shocks, 350,000 of whom received a serious injury, 28 electrocutions. Hmmmm. http://www.esfi.org/index.cfm/page/Injury-and-Fatality-Statistics/pid/12015 time to get on with...
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    Interestingly, on average 90-98% of UK homes have all PVC copper wiring and modern earthing, around 60% have modern consumer units, but only 50-60 have RCD's. It says 20% of fires could be prevented by the presence of an RCD (somehow??). So, even though our wiring is mostly modern, we have...
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    1425 fires caused by tumble dryers, washing machines, dishwashers and lighting. They lump Wiring, cabling, plugs together as 2,899. 17,932 fires caused by 'products', 2,471 fires caused by installations, so it's not out of 20,000 its out of 17,932 if we're being pedantic. Are toasters...
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    I'll make one last 'rubbish statement' to say that, in the UK, I believe it is fair to comment that wiring regulations have had little to no effect in reducing the risk of electrical fires in the UK as time has gone by, because they simply differ very little over the decades in addressing...
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    BAS brought up number of deaths because he likes to be dramatic, instead of drawing conclusions about what are actual real-life, under publicized problems, and what are purely theoretical.
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    I'm not interested in the number of deaths, because that is subjective, so I wasn't paying proper attention to it. I'm interested in the number of fires, and the main causes of the fires in different parts of the world.
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    read my post just before. There is a phenomenon whereby larger populations experience larger rates of death, decline and disease than smaller populations, which is negated by a larger rate of population increase, so it does not work on a direct ratio (number of people:number of deaths). Taking...
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    The point is, the UK has nearly as many electrical fires as the whole of the US each year. There is a much higher ratio of fires caused by products and misuse compared with faults or installations, indicating that people are using products and installations in an incorrect way, meaning...
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    yes, I just corrected that. 244 is for 'all domestic fires'
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    You will seriously bend, and even fabricate information whatever possible way to prove they you are right and assert authority. The US Fire Administration and FEMA publish 280 annual deaths from electrical fire in the US. The electrical safety council publish 46 annual deaths by electrical fire...
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    :shock: oh dear. And I thought it was bad when the plastic earth prong snaps off in a British socket. It would be better if the terminals in the socket were back far enough so that you have to push a plug in entirely before the prongs actually contact the terminals. You wouldn't need sleeving at...
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    well, in actual fact, thinking about it, this isn't the case. You can have as many 13a sockets on a 20a or 30a radial as you want. Therefore you can have as many 5a sockets on a 15a radial, or 2a sockets on a 10a radial as you want, because, in theory, only one 13a, 5a or 2a appliance can be...
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    But you're not making any point here, at all. Factual or theoretical. Maybe if you read more, international news, traveled more, generally interested yourself in affairs outside of your immediate scope of british electrical installation regulations, you might understand where I'm coming from and...
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    this has more than answered my original question, I thought the same, but I wasn't sure whether I was correct or not.
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    *with the exception of kitchen appliances which are used on a countertop OBVIOUSLY Do a bit of research. Enlighten yourself. When I was at university, there was a huge problem with hairdryers (and straighteners) setting fire to beds in dorm rooms because students were using them to get clothes...
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    10a MCB lighting circuit and 2a sockets

    yes I know that. Electric dryers typically have 2 110v phases, equaling 240v, neutral and ground (4 prongs), but are rated at 30amps because appliances tend to be much larger in the US. The point is, gas dryers have standard 3-prong 110v plugs, but the motor carries a high current, so code does...
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