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John only reason I asked was because you sounded so knowledgable. I used to do electrical installation work back when I left school as said around time of 13/14 edition but that was just to fill time and earn a crust whilst training as radio/tv engineer. I do still do the odd bit of electrical...

You say whimsical I say compliant with wiring regs! in fact required by wiring regs. Well maybe an inherited error of wiring regs.

John further to my last post above would just be interested in how long you have been connected with the industry. Tell me to get lost if you don't wish to say or PM me if just not in public! Think it would have been 13/14th editions when I was first involved.

Again bear with me and I will try to 'defend' them a bit later.

Bear with me I will try to reveal all later. May not be until this evening.

Yup agree 100% poor use of words. Simply meant that the services were electrically linked so no Potential Difference could occur between them which would obviously be the case as you say with connection back to main earth terminal

But John I, and other gasmen as well as Joe Public, are not refering to the gas supply pipe, nor any water supply pipe that feeds that service from the main network into the property, we are refering to the INTERNAL installation of pipework be it gas, water or, as you just mentioned above oil...

Thanks for that denso. Not being gas registered now it takes some time for me to obtain latest TB's. Guidence in that hasen't changed really just been updated to reflect latest wiring reg details.

First job or his last one?

Theoretical debates can go on forever. Go back to square 1 and supply a bit of evidence to say bonding (of any description) of gas pipe within 600 mm or where it enters the domestic property, as required by already quoted gas regs, is wrong and unecessary. That would presumeably require proving...

Poor scenario sorry. Change it to be a bit more realistic lean on the machine an touch a tap, fo instance, and you WOULD feel it. Would you survive who knows but it is probably one of the instances you cannot plan for. This is the reason it must be considered as a poor example it would...

By who? This is not possible it is a required part of the system. Purposly said I would not use technical terminology to avoid clouding the issue. Is the main zone not intended to be from the moment you enter the front door of the property? Supplementry, again correct me, is to ensure that a...

Assume nothing! I was criticized by using quites from such publications. No a pipe connected internally to the system but just an open end externally. Please correct me if this is wrong, I have no doubt this will be the case. I have tried also to avoid any 'technical terms' so as to avoid any...

Bonded by who and where? Oh and if that is considered an e-c-p why not the piece of metal pipe outside the building in the illustration?

One might ask 'who actually is ELECSA?' Is it a regulatory concern or is it a Competent Persons 'club' that takes money from companies in return for the privledge of self-certifying by virtue that they inspect their members work? Plus supply advise on THEIR interpretation of various regulations...

I spent all my gas time carrying out appliance repairs and I would change that statement to 'Never assume anything'.

@AndyPRK Five pages of debating trying to argue electricians are right and gasmen are wrong, and ignorant of what is really required, so to jump fence and see it from electrical regs side. Quote " 411 3 1 2 Protective equipotential bonding. In each installation main protective bonding...

Note for information wiring regs not a legal document whereas GSIUR is. Electricians argue come what may the above is a requirement gasmen have to comply with. Start another thread if need be but above are the facts we have to comply with.

Note for information wiring regs not a legal document whereas GSIUR is. Electricians argue come what may the above is a requirement gasmen have to comply with.

We are not expcted to test if it is satisfactory only check it is there and if we had any concerns to inform the responsible person to get it checked by a qualified person. Anyone with a reasonable level of eyesight is compete