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So you live by ALL of the rules in Deuteronomy?

That's not an answer Joe and you know it! :D

So marriage needs children to be a true one .... Is that your definition of marriage? :D What 'protection' are you on about exactly? Imagine, people getting married so they can freely gratify each other...the horror of it. Better for a woman to fire out half a dozen children or so...

You've previously said that you haven't read the bible, and have no wish to do so, so me arguing with you about scripture is a little bit unfair. If you are genuinely interested in learning more , perhaps have a gander at what Jesus said about how we should treat others ,the folly of casting...

I'll leave it there.

It's okay, Norcon, honestly. It makes no odds to me whatsoever how you want to love your neighbour.

No, I was reducing the entire law of god into the two phrases Jesus used, to illustrate his acceptance of , and love for, everyone. You are the one who instantly equated loving your neighbour with ' boning' a man. But that's okay, if that's your cup of tea, go for it.

And as you love a Pat Condell video, how about this one he made on Jesus being gay? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGmZt0GGt8M

Strange how that was the first thought that came into your head! 8)

He's got some interesting views views on Christians as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk4AJ1BgQX8

As Usual, selective nonsense that ignores the rest of the law. Would you stone someone who kept a goat in a field with sheep? Or who wore clothes made of different fibres? Don't just pick some bible rules, follow them all. What happened to the teachings of Jesus? Where does he say that...

They need a referendum for constitutional change. Unlike the UK which has no written constitution but relays on law and precedent. 62% of the vote, I think, is a majority. Interesting use of fervent. You don't get many apathetic activists!

Joe.... Any chance of an answer ? What difference does it make to your world view if there were fewer Jews killed by the Nazi regime?

'We all discriminate' is that a a Royal We? Speak for yourself!

Most ROI Catholics are actually Protestants :D Gay marriage, divorce, contraception, not really on message with the Pope!

But in ROI it's made the MAJORITY feel happier about the society they live in. Defining man or woman is irrelevant ?

Why at some people so concerned at what other consenting adults get up to in bed? I think it was a great result in ROI for acceptance. If you are a Christian who thinks homosexuality is a 'sin' then you should also be punished if you wear clothes of mixed fibres. Not much consistency...

Spot on, thanks. And Hitler was using it about the English.

Okay, As I say, will get a chance later to look. Two questions for me though One- bluntly 'so what' ? ( Eg How does this affect our perception of the Nazis?) Secondly, to what do you attribute the reduction, from pre- to post-war ,in the European Jewish population ?

[/url] I'll watch that tomorrow evening, Joe. So what have been the outcomes for you, given that you doubt the numbers?