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  1. M

    ICE told to get the eff out

    What does that mean. Are you saying that he had made a decision to fire three shots and so he was unable to stop himself completing those shots even when the danger had passed. A court would laugh at that.
  2. M

    ICE told to get the eff out

    I disagree. If either the second or third gunshots killed Renee, then it is a slam dunk murder. The killer intentionally fired those two shots at a person when he knew he was in no danger. If, however, it was the first shot which killed her, then the situation is less clear.
  3. M

    ICE told to get the eff out

    By the time of the second and third gunshots, it was clear to the killer that any danger had passed. Because, by then, Renee was driving away from him. Even if the first shot was justifiable, the second and third shots definitely were not.
  4. M

    ICE told to get the eff out

    She was rather hectoring in tone. But her words were actually very mild. I remember she said they would be coming back tomorrow. What is the worst thing you believe she said to him.
  5. M

    ICE told to get the eff out

    Well, she did call him 'big boy' and told him to go on his lunch break. If that isn't grounds for shooting a civilian, I don't know what is.
  6. M

    ICE told to get the eff out

    She didn't try to stop anyone. Are you arguing that the very fact ICE agents believed she might do this, was enough to amount to obstruction. It is important to understand that she was a long way from their actual operation.
  7. M

    They Want Any Excuse For Censorship

    I don't think I have a problem with that. Has Twitter agreed to make those changes.
  8. M

    ICE told to get the eff out

    Yes, we have all agreed that Renee was parked a long distance away from the ICE operation and could not possibly have been obstructing it in any way. I think we have also agreed that the second and third shots were definitely illegal. The main issue still to resolve is whether the first shot was...
  9. M

    They Want Any Excuse For Censorship

    Would you be happy with a law which banned this from happening on Twitter if it was enacted properly.
  10. M

    They Want Any Excuse For Censorship

    You seem to know a lot about it. Just kidding. The objection seems to be that women and children are posting their photos on Twitter and people are using the perv tool on Twitter to undress them and then repost their photos.
  11. M

    ICE told to get the eff out

    The objective fact is that a car with its wheels turned to the right will follow the laws of physics and go to the right. The officer knew the wheels were turned to the right because he had seen it with his own eyes.
  12. M

    They Want Any Excuse For Censorship

    Twitter is not just an AI perv tool.
  13. M

    They Want Any Excuse For Censorship

    Why don't X just change Grok to stop it being able to do this sort of thing.
  14. M

    ICE told to get the eff out

    Is the argument you are making that she could quickly have changed direction and run him over.
  15. M

    They Want Any Excuse For Censorship

    The slimy man who presents this video and takes ages to say almost nothing, is the same man from the video you posted last week. Who is he. Is he important.
  16. M

    ICE told to get the eff out

    The latest Trump justification for the killing is that Renee had been very disrespectful to law enforcement. The killer's POV video shows that she was nothing but polite and friendly to the officers she spoke with. The NY Times article ends:
  17. M

    ICE told to get the eff out

    I actually posted the same video yesterday. It shows Renee's car what I estimated is about two hundred yards away from where the ICE agents were carrying out their operation. Maybe that distance isn't quite right. The point is that she was so far away, that she couldn't possibly be obstructing...
  18. M

    ICE told to get the eff out

    They seem to have bleeped it now. When they first posted it, a male voice said those words and they were crystal clear. We don't know whether it was the killer or another agent. The bleep in this video at 1 min 39 seconds is when the words are said...
  19. M

    ICE told to get the eff out

    One of us will be right! I honestly don't know.
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