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Thanks for that, I will have a look.

Thanks for that, they look interesting. A few questions though, what degree of spot/flood are they? We have found that 40 to 50 degrees are okay. Can you get the bulbs in a cool white light? We have the MR16 50 watt lights and love the bright white light they give off. I know a lot of them...

:lol: :lol: No Steve, we still have the old kitchen operational. It's a long project as I'm doing most of the building work inside at weekends and in the evenings.

We were out a couple of weeks ago and went into a cafe which had the type of lights you mentioned in my previous post but we didn't like the general overall light from them. I realise you don't like downlights but we do, we like the flood type downlights which give broad pools of bright cool...

They don't do T5s for downlights do they?

We have been looking at LEDs. There is a Philips one just out which is 9 watts for a GU10 fitting and is quite impressive and the technology is improving all the time.

We are in the process of building an extension for the kitchen and at the moment I haven't put the flooring down or the walls and ceiling up so now is the best time to do anything with the lighting. We are going to have four zones for lighting, Perimiter, Wall & Under Cupboard, Island and...

It's becoming clear the the GU10 fittings are a bit like Marmite. Our lounge is about the same size as the new extension and in there we have two pendants with 100 watt incandescent bulbs in them. They light the room fine but we never have them on, instead we have two wall lights on a dimmer and...

I did look at your other suggestions but they looked overkill for a domestic situation. What exactly is wrong with GU10 fittings? We have been using MR16 fittings for years and find them ideal for use in the kitchen. You are obviously very experienced in this area so I take your comments...

I called in to see a lighting designer and after a brief chat it was suggested that we could go with the GU10 fittings and use the 11w Megaman cool white bulbs like this: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/FLCFL200W.html What are your thoughts on this? I assume they aren't HF types so...

Are the HF fittings suitable for kitchens or are they overkill?

Right, now I see what you mean. I hadn't realised things had moved on quite so much. Our recent experiences have been when we visit my father in law who has CFLs and it's like being in a cave with a candle as the only means of light. Reading a book with the bedside lamp is awful. Thanks very...

But that's like going back to the 70s, they look so naff! Plus fluorescent lights give me a headache.

Thanks for your reply. GU10s are 240v aren't they? But are they as white and bright as the MR16s? I really don't like fluorescent so will LEDs fit in the larger downlighters?

My first post so I wanted to say hi to you all, I hope you are a friendly bunch! I have done some searching on the forum but haven't found the answer so I thought I would post a new thread. We have a small kitchen 3.4 x 4.1 metres and are in the process of building a 7.5 x 4.5 metre extension...