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Aren't they just the same as MFI flog - go and waste one of their reps time getting them to do plan and ask them to print off a quote (with parts listing) - then go to Howdens and buy it!! Get the Schreiber equivalents though as the carcasses are preassembled - had one in last house and was...

Called Builders Merchants - they are going to get a rep out from the manufacturers. Fingers crossed.

I can't flip them over as in permanently - the 2 sides are different. Sorry - I have seen some of your dry humor elsewhere on the forum hence the question (I have no objection to dry humor BTW!!) Do you reckon the builders merchant will tell me to get lost? I have spent quite a lot with...

Breezer - do you mean lift them to see whats underneath or was that a joke!! Cheers.

In my bid to take over this part of the forum with all my garden related queries here is a bit of a worrying one - well worrying to me anyway!! Background info : Patio has been down 3 or 4 weeks now - all seems very solid (laid on 3-4 inches MOT and 2-3 inches sand/cement) Slabs are 600x600...

Cheers all for the replies. Timber is 120mm x 220mm so no worries for coming out of the side. Wasn't sure of terms so knowing a few more descriptive names helped in searching!! Have drilled all the 25mm holes this evening in a couple of inches for the lights housing, ready for when...

I have to drill right through some softwood which is 220mm across as I want to sink in some LED lights. I have tried drilling from both sides but it doesn't give a clean enough hole to pass the plug/cable through. The only bits I can see in the sheds long enough are all masonary bits -...

The frame for my decked area I am making out of 4 x 2 - it's a narrow path type area and with a limited span in mind, it's handier not having to lose the extra height of 6 x 2, and perhaps just whacking some extra bracing in instead. The Mrs picked up some joist hangers from the builders...

The fabric? Sorry - I am going to dig a further foot or so back from the sleepers and fill with shingle to aid a bit of drainage down and away from the sleepers rather than have wet earth against them - a few places have suggested that. The fabric was to "enclose" the shingle really and...

Thanks Thermo The other research I have done (pavingexpert etc) I have seen mentioned shingle behind the timbers (as noseall said) so I will definitely do that at least. Is there a readily available suitable geotextile to put between shingle/timber - I take it normal landscape fabric wo't do...

Surely you are in the market for a brain, no?

Have posted briefly in previous loosely related post about this which noseall kindly pointed me in right direction re patio drainage but now need some more info for reassurance before I carry on : Just in the process of landscaping my garden. Plan is to have patio outside back door, sleeper...

We've got 2 1 foot ones to make 2 foot - looks OK and much cheaper I assume

Sorry to keep posting to this thread but I just thought of something else : If some of the water is coming from the raised area of the garden (pretty sure it is) then should I do something on that side of the sleeper retaining wall also? I am presuming when turfed it will drain through a bit...

I've fired off an email to Bellway but don't hold out that much hope with them!! I have the plans that you get marking the boundary etc with the deeds - will it show up anywhere in that sort of documentation? Neighbours have been in houses less time than us unfortunately so not sure...

Noseall - thanks for all your posts on this. Do you think I should start by excavating near the drain pipe then to see how low it goes? How would I tell if it goes off into the drains or a soakaway? Cheers

Ouch!! OK if I wanted to hook up to the current rainwater drainage whats involved in that? The current downpipe is at the back right hand corner (highest point) - presume id need some sort of gully along lowest edge of patio, with a return back under the patio (against the surface fall)...

Not without some difficulty - nearest guttering downpipe is close to house - back up the slope where the water is coming from - which is now covered in hardcore!! I think what has made it wore this weekend is there is not a single piece of greenery in the whole garden - we "napalmed" it to...

I'm just in the process of laying a new patio, approx 9m x 3.6m, in 600x600 concrete slabs. On Saturday I got the 4 inches of hardcore down and whacked and have constructed what seems to be a pretty firm base with the appropriate run off. Yesterday it rained solid for 24 hours!! Now beyond...

Thanks Thermo - you should start charging for your advice (after this last question)!! The slabs I am laying are 600x600 (90 of them) and I don't want a visible joint because the style of the slabs is very modern - sharp and square. Whats the best way to approach laying them - simply a strip...