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thinking of having a concealed 3-way diverter mixer. The whole bathroom is being redone, retiled etc. Would it make life easier/quicker for the plumber or better from the aspect of future maintenance, if I boarded the wall out rather than have the pipes chased in and a recess for the mixer...

Do you live in a hard water area?

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How well (i.e. fast and accurately) do thermostatic mixers work? If a tap is turned on elsewhere in the house, or the loo next to the bathroom is flushed, so reducing the flow of hot or cold, will the mixer cope quickly enough to avoid the shower going too cold, or too hot? Are any makes...

Indeed, but rather than explain that people decided they'd rather patronise insult and lie to me when I failed to realise from an instant "you need an RGI" that there were various tests to do.

Not you personally, "you" as a group of experts on this forum.

I never said I wasn't prepared to spend money having it installed, I just couldn't see the need for what I thought was fixing a hose to it. It would have been nice to have had an explanation of the need.

And being incompetent to DIY gas makes it OK for you to patronise insult and lie to me when I ask for an explanation does it?

You dont even know me but if you are going to take a dislike to people when they object to you patronising, insulting and lying to them then I imagine you dislike a great many people. All I wanted was proper advice but because I didnt prostrate myself following the first "get an RGI" you seem...

Yes, that's what I wrote. And then when I asked why it needed commissioning after one end of a hose was connected, what sort of responses did I get? Can you not see that however wrongly I thought all that was needed was a gas tight connection to be made when the hose was screwed in? Do...

So asking questions, and then daring to ask for explanations means that I deserve to be treated with contempt, does it? Being wrong about something because of lack of knowledge and trying to find out what lies behind the answers because my lack of knowledge prevents me from seeing it means...

I didnt "demand" answers I asked a question. Is it not true that the cooker doesnt need commissioning each time I plug the bayonet back in? So I asked what the difference was. I did thank people when I eventually got answers but at that stage I had not had any good ones, only pronouncements...

Well you should care, assuming you think you are here to help people. Because it did look as if you were supporting the brotherhood of gas fitters at all costs. It would be a chance in a million if you personally earned anything from me using an installer but overall it looked like...

I wish there was a way to take away thanks that someone else had given. You just don't get it. You are supposed to be an expert so you know things I dont so tell me and explain dont just try and fob me off with an excuse which looks like "if you dont know what sealant to use you obviously cant...

Fair enough but I hope you can see why as plug it in and cook is what I do with the far end of that hose it seemed it would be pretty much the same with the near end. OK so if it isnt what was so hard for people to explain that. Some of you need a serious attitude adjustment if you see...

You see you have now lost all credibility in my eyes because I know that isnt true. It is for people doing it for a living but not if diying at home. The law requires them to be competent but not to have a particular qualification. If a job needs tests that a diyer cant do with test...

Its up to you. Do you want gas fitters to appear to be money grubbing pillocks who cannot explain why they are needed so making it look as though they have no justification but just tell people to get a gas fitter to protect their jobs or do you want to be genuinely helpful. If you really...

Lightning - thanks for being a lot more helpful and informative. I guess it didn't occur to me that when spending £1000's on a new range cooker that it might be faulty on arrival. And yes, I did ask somewhere else as well, but check the times of the posts. I asked on Screwfix after all I...

It's a house. Maybe a bit of helpful explanation rather than "you need an RGI to screw a hose in" would have been better. A proper explanation of why I cant check one connection for leaks. A proper explanation of why connecting one end of a hose means I need the cooker "commissioned" but...

So one question about sealant for a screwed pipe connection makes me incompetent to do it once I know what sealent to use?