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    Condensing system boiler options in an S-plan?

    I've added up my radiator output, it's roughly 12 kW (suggesting the rads are perhaps slightly undersized for the house). It seems madness to recommend a 30kW boiler, I guess they're basing it on the current boiler being a 28kW unit. I've asked the person supplying the Vaillant quote about...
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    Condensing system boiler options in an S-plan?

    I don't know more than expert, I don't want to know more than experts, but I do want to know enough so that I don't get caught out by a numpty who doesn't know how to size a boiler! :lol:
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    Condensing system boiler options in an S-plan?

    Your advice is very much appreciated, hence why I also pressed the thank button for your earlier response! Depending on who you ask my 20% is conservative, Danfoss claims up to 40% improvement from WC :shock: Guess it's the double-edged sword of marketing lies and internet. I came into this...
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    Condensing system boiler options in an S-plan?

    I do get the feeling I'm over-thinking this all. A condensing boiler that's not condensing should be as efficient as a regular boiler, right? So that's 80% instead of 90%? So all this fancy controls logic etc is trying to ensure that it's spending more time at 90% rather than 80%? That...
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    Condensing system boiler options in an S-plan?

    I'm even more confused now.... Thought I'd get the information straight from Vaillant, emailed them for confirmation. Got the following response: So now the Vaillant technical support people are saying their supposedly advanced controls offer no benefits over a simple on/off roomstat +...
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    Condensing system boiler options in an S-plan?

    I'll see if I can get some alternative Vaillant installers to come round for a quote, see if I can find one who's done a vr 65 install. I guess Worcester Bosch doesn't have anything equivalent? Their own intelligent controls all state not compatible with S/Y plan systems?
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    Condensing system boiler options in an S-plan?

    I guess my other limation is with the Megaflo and VR10 NTC which don't seem to go together well. The vr 65 docs suggest that VR10 NTC is optional, so I guess could live without it for now? Could decide to rip it out in the future and install Vaillant's own alternative.
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    Condensing system boiler options in an S-plan?

    Hi UpgradeME, I'm glad I'm not the only one stumped by this. This has to be a very common problem? Do people really just not care about boiler efficiencies? I too assume the boiler will do some sort of modulation on return temps to try and keep it condensing, but with the system boiler...
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    Condensing system boiler options in an S-plan?

    The current setup was fitted at the time the house was built, 5 or 6 years ago so I guess the building inspector was happy to sign off on it. I bought the property recently but from what I've seen so far, the builders were a right bunch of cowboys. I really would feel better if a new supply...
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    Condensing system boiler options in an S-plan?

    I've recently received several quotes to replace my current system boiler as it repeatedly failed over the past winter. 4 bedroom detached house, system boiler in the garage, megaflo cylinder upstairs. Online heat calculator suggests 14.5 kW heating required. I received quotes suggesting a...
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    Boiler running despite timer and thermostat being off

    Excellent call, I think I have found my gremlin in the system. I can't even begin to think how this is supposed to work. Tested frost stat (it's labelled Potterton) using multi-meter. Ambient temp around +5C or so. Set the frost stat to -10, it's calling for heat (verified, 220V on...
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    Boiler running despite timer and thermostat being off

    I had a poke about with the multimeter today. External controls voltage is at 0 when the valves are shut. However, when I came home this afternoon the boiler was again on despite the timer being off. I wasn't quick enough with the multimeter to see if an external control was asking for heat...
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    Boiler running despite timer and thermostat being off

    I was looking for something like that, but haven't found anything like it. There is a control block (a many-way sugar cube block) next to the boiler that the frost thermostat (and a number of other wires) are connected to, with the output going to the boiler. I'll see if I can get my hands...
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    Boiler running despite timer and thermostat being off

    I had the boiler serviced recently and the frost stat setting was changed from -5 to +5C. I believe at the time the valves were also prodded and they looked ok, but I'll double-check. If a frost stat kicks in, should it also open the CH valve or just make sure that the pipes are hot?
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    Boiler running despite timer and thermostat being off

    Hi all, Our newly purchased house (modern construction, 5 years old) has an odd problem. Potterton Performa 28E system boiler, fitted with Myson room thermostat and 2-channel timer, feeding rads and a megaflo hot water tank. Timer controls 2x 2-port valves installed below the megaflo (I...
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