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  1. FatallyFlawed

    Light switch move - the result

    Let us just consider the facts, rather than making such sweeping claims as the above. 1. The 1944 report ‘Post War Building Study No. 11' which called for a new plug & socket stated “To ensure the safety of young children it is of considerable importance that the contacts of the...
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    Light switch move - the result

    Absolutely! Thanks Freddy.
  3. FatallyFlawed

    To use or not to use........

    Thanks to the posters who have linked to FatallyFlawed. You may like to know that Which?, as a result of someone there reading the recent IET article, removed their 2009 review of socket covers from the web.
  4. FatallyFlawed

    Portable appliance testing

    As I said, the Europlug (or CEE 7/16 plug, as was shown in Lectrician's photo) is rated at 2.5A, the Europlug pins have a diameter of 4mm. The European 16A plug pins have a diameter of 4.8mm and are most definetely not called a Europlug. There are several differing forms used in different...
  5. FatallyFlawed

    Portable appliance testing

    A Europlug is rated at 2.5A, not 16A!
  6. FatallyFlawed

    Universal adaptor with no earth

    A recent topic reminded me of this type of device, a universal adaptor which has no earth on the plug side (the UK "earth pin" is plastic] but which will allow earthed plugs (including UK plugs) to be inserted)into the socket. This type is available at high street stores, including John Lewis...
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    Universal adaptor

  9. FatallyFlawed

    Fatally Flawed - an E-Petition

    In the 1932 patent I mentioned earlier, GB 365275, it is not possible to either insert or remove the plug unless the switch is off.
  10. FatallyFlawed

    Fatally Flawed - an E-Petition

    MK patented something similar back in 1932, GB patent number: 365275. However, we are wandering OT again! The BS 1363 socket is safe providing that it is not interfered with by inserting inappropriately dimensioned plug like objects into it. The suggested locking socket would not help to...
  11. FatallyFlawed

    Fatally Flawed - an E-Petition

    I think that there is a lot to be said for the idea of requiring all new sockets in houses, hospitals and public places to be of the type requiring three pins to operate the shutter. As there are already at least three manufacturers of such (MK, Legrand and Hagar) then patents are not an issue...
  12. FatallyFlawed

    New toy from ebay

    I have been approached by BBC Fake Brittain for information on the issue of fake power cables and illegal adaptors. There are two things of interest: Actual shops who are selling them (not on-line). Any cases of harm or fire caused by fake plugs and cables. If you can help please PM me...
  13. FatallyFlawed

    Fatally Flawed - an E-Petition

    Here is one of the FAQ's from our site: "If I can open the shutters in a socket by using a socket cover upside down, surely I can do the same thing with a proper plug? Firstly, you should always ensure that you do not leave any mains device with a plug attached within reach of children...
  14. FatallyFlawed

    Fatally Flawed - an E-Petition

    I suppose it depends on what you mean by independent. When the IET reported on the founding of FatallyFlawed (see http://eandt.theiet.org/magazine/2009/05/analysis-sockets.cfm ) they named Graham Kenyon's 2002 socket cover posting on their site as the earliest documented concern, you can...
  15. FatallyFlawed

    New toy from ebay

    I would like to see specific requirements for what is shown in the photograph, and a requirement that the photograph be of exactly the product to be delivered. In the case of anything intended to plug in to a BS 1363 socket there should be a clear photograph of the plug pins. The photograph...
  16. FatallyFlawed

    New toy from ebay

    BAS It is nice to be able to agree with you. I urge anyone who has not already done so to look at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2008/12/amazon_marketplace_offering_da.html Then go to Amazon and seach for "pepper spray or CS spray. I have no explanation as to how Amazon is above...
  17. FatallyFlawed

    New toy from ebay

    See www.bs1363.org.uk There are thousands of such illegal products on eBay and Amazon, Amazon show no inclination to remove them, but eBay will if it is done through trading standards, we have so far had over 5000 listings removed.
  18. FatallyFlawed

    Fatally Flawed - an E-Petition

    That statement is wrong. Good engineering practice would dictate that socket covers (if they are to be used) be made to the size which has been determined as safe for a plug. A socket cover should fully cover the pin apertures of the socket, in accordance with the dimensions specified in BS...
  19. FatallyFlawed

    Fatally Flawed - an E-Petition

    Yes they have, without doubt. See http://www.fatallyflawed.org.uk/html/user_comments.html Can I remind everyone that the petition does not call for them to be banned, but to be the correct size for safe use. As there are no detailed statistics collected on electrocutions in the home, it...
  20. FatallyFlawed

    Fatally Flawed - an E-Petition

    As ageneral pont Bernard, I do agree with you that the BS 1363 configuration is best, but there are, as we all know, circumstances in which a standard BS 1363 plug is not a good solution, and travelling with one or more of them in a laptop bag is a perfect example. That is the issue which...
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