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kevplumb Not lost my grip, believe me it is not my pastime, I've got better things to do with my life :) (I really must raid 5 my server,and get the proxy/mail filter back online) I'm just a tight wad who got quoted £3 000 (excl ch rad probs) to remove a conventional boiler/heating system...

masona What you talking about Willis !!! I've been walking for years of course I can get to the bathroom without tripping, unless i'm lashed or under the influence of lsd. Apologies if tripping is an 'in' corgi plumbing joke and I've missed the point. any way, back to the question...

BRIPL Cheers for the advice there is a place locally CK Assessment & Training Ltd that will do both for £470 are they any good ? I'm in herts by the way. sorry for being thick, Don't understand why warm water 'will be dripping on me head' I've stuck millions (well lots) of pipes...

Just got an ideal izar he35 and have replaced my conventional boiler with this new fangled combi. removed the tank/powerflushed the system, replaced lots of burst rads when it pressurised,etc I'm at the stage where i need to connect up the gas and go through the start up procedure...