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Thanks breezer, I can see the logic in that now. One thing I should add in the 'disasters' forum. I made a lovely job of changing a cingle socket to a double, until at a dinner party tonight, when wwe closed the serving hatch doors ~ the plaster/paint was out by 5mm ~ oh s&6t, said the Mrs...

Many thanks for your help. I can now see that the third wire comes from the socket that is spured off the other side of the wall. So, to spur from the ring under the upstair floor boards, I need a 30A junction box, and a length of 2.5mm2 cable. I would only need to break into just 'one' cable...

Again, refering to domestic wiring, ring mains etc, is their a site that gives some circuit diagrams, showing different types of spurs etc, one of my sockets seem to have 3 cables running into it! Keith

I am looking at moving the dedicated cooker switch/socket(seperate) to avoid new cupboards. This is on it's own circuit with a dedicated 45A fuse in the board. I was under the impression that this was common practice.

Reading through, I take it that if you take a Spur from the ring, in the floor boards, you only use one 2.5mm cable? looking at one of my existing double sockets I see that it has 'two' cables in it. I imagine one from each end of the ring. Many thanks :)