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  1. mafj

    convert cold water tank/vented cylinder installation into vented heat store with HIU for DHW

    Another update: * RP50PT was slow to react and produced unsatisfactory pressure for my fitting (especially 1bar+ rated kitchen faucet). I have connected shower to mains and got RP80SU instead. RP80SU is way more responsive, gives decent initial pressure to kitchen faucet (and pump starts...
  2. mafj

    universal shower pump starts with delay

    Tweaking the pressure vessel was the right direction. After getting somewhat adequate non-leaking car foot pump with manometer I realized the pressure I applied beforehand was way below of what I thought it was. Note the salamander datasheet states 14psi for that model - RP80SU. The pressure...
  3. mafj

    universal shower pump starts with delay

    I'd think that the pressure vessel would hold the high pressure and flow for a bit though... However with 100ml it would not be for more than 1s at 6l/min
  4. mafj

    universal shower pump starts with delay

    Is it possible to tweak the pipe electronics/swap pressure sensor? I'd like to make the pump to set off at 1.5 bar.
  5. mafj

    universal shower pump starts with delay

    I have not resolved the problem entirely but mitigated it somewhat (time for the pump to kick in). I have done some pump/vessel characterization (made sure to depressurise water side before adjusting as advised). The pressure when tap is closed is 2bar. When tap is opened very slightly -...
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    universal shower pump starts with delay

    It looked the vessel was near flat. I pumped it - it was marked 18PSI, - I gave it my best shot... but I only have a leaky pump with approximate gage. It feels definitely more reliable but I still can get it to 'deadlock' state with ten attempts.
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    universal shower pump starts with delay

    The pump is 4m away from cyl - in 22mm in pipework including gravity loop in the loft (the top of the pump is bang on at 600mm below the bottom of the cold water tank).. I'm reading up about the vessel pre-charge...
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    universal shower pump starts with delay

    I have fitted a universal shower pump too boost hot water from gravity system to a fancy kitchen faucet (min pressure 1bar). The pump is RP80SU rated 2.4bar 10m of pipework away from the faucet, cold is mains 3.5bar. I have tried initially positive feed pump, but the flow from the faucet was...
  9. mafj

    convert cold water tank/vented cylinder installation into vented heat store with HIU for DHW

    Update, I have eventually went on with a shower pump (RP50PT) that feeds shower (both hot and cold) and feeds kitchen (hot only). It is a bit of love and bit of hate. * Flow at shower went up from 2L/min to 6L/min mixed and pressure is sensible now. Less than expected but you can tell from...
  10. mafj

    Potterton Suprima 50

    Still have this one. The worst I needed to do with the boiler was to press reset 4 years ago. In the meantime I replaced broken pump and 3 pos valve, got evohome controls. The boiler rock solid.
  11. mafj

    convert cold water tank/vented cylinder installation into vented heat store with HIU for DHW

    Correction: I actually was thinking about gledhill torrent: https://www.plumbnation.co.uk/site/gledhill-torrent-stainless-open-vented-cylinders/ with 180L for £1036 (still reasonable) and smaller ones for ~£950.
  12. mafj

    convert cold water tank/vented cylinder installation into vented heat store with HIU for DHW

    I have been just looking at https://www.plumbnation.co.uk/site/gledhill-pulsacoil-stainless-thermal-store-cylinders/ And perhaps I misunderstood and the price £945 is for cylinder alone? while I initially thought the price is for cylinder and PHE/pump. ... on the pictures it looks like one...
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    convert cold water tank/vented cylinder installation into vented heat store with HIU for DHW

    In other words I want to build something like this, which is £945... for both tank and all the elements and all the work... https://www.gledhill.net/uploads/PulsaCoil-Stainless-Manual-1.pdf
  14. mafj

    convert cold water tank/vented cylinder installation into vented heat store with HIU for DHW

    Where have you sourced this cylinder from? Would there be any affordable cylinder for my design with either coil or PHE?
  15. mafj

    convert cold water tank/vented cylinder installation into vented heat store with HIU for DHW

    Thanks guys that is really helping a lot to run this through you. I see your points and am getting a bit hesitant myself. The last thing I want is to needing to bath in a kitchen sink in cold water and to flush toilet with a bowl for a week, with some bits and bobs dragging for months. And to...
  16. mafj

    convert cold water tank/vented cylinder installation into vented heat store with HIU for DHW

    Just posted drawings above that include the existing setup and planned changes with coil cylinder. No part is vented. 10% F&E sounds reasonable. My current cold water tank occupies middle spot in my loft with best headroom. it is raised on some timbers across trusses to be a bit higher and...
  17. mafj

    convert cold water tank/vented cylinder installation into vented heat store with HIU for DHW

    So this is my setup and planned changes in pictures, no part of the system is sealed. I wish I could just go for an integrated combi ideally with small tank... but that could only replace existing boiler in the kitchen where space is at premium.
  18. mafj

    convert cold water tank/vented cylinder installation into vented heat store with HIU for DHW

    Not an issue - nice modern mixer faucets with aerators give that soft and light but plentiful water. Looking at your tank - this is not a big tank at all, I wonder how big is mine but hundreds and hundreds of liters for sure. Obviously I can ensure good supply and I really would not need the...
  19. mafj

    convert cold water tank/vented cylinder installation into vented heat store with HIU for DHW

    I'll clarify. I'd intend to eventually move all the appliances (taps and shower) to mains pressure. And then the hot water tank would feed nothing (two coils would go through it - that is it), so this would be stagnant water. And the cold water tank`s outstanding function would be left only to...
  20. mafj

    convert cold water tank/vented cylinder installation into vented heat store with HIU for DHW

    This is heat exchanger plus pump plus the tmv and thermostats, regulating valves and control unit. New price is 1400euro. Second coil seems like a simple solution i thought problem with those is low rate. My tank is 200L. With the 2nd coil : I could try to get like for like tank with just...
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