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If it's old victorian studwall with lath and plaster does this count as a modern wall ? All of my walls are boarded and plastered, none are drylined

They're going to have their own circuit as well. I'm just going through the sparkys list here and he's got down for a variety of different back boxes, some plastic some metal, and some referred to at pattresses. What's the rule of thumb? The majority of the double sockets are going in old...

You've wasted hours of your life and now your getting it back you're running away tail in legs :lol:

Again, I'll find out on monday but if someone could tell me what cable to use for integrated smoke/fire alarms?

Don't be playing the innocent victim now. If you wanted to come out and be honest in saying all you've wanted to do is obstruct me then that's a start, but it's lies from you about your agenda. All of your contributions here have been obstructive, and what's funny to me is that nothing you've...

Neither is this ^^^ is it

What are the 8 deviations? [/b]

I won't insult your intelligence by stating where that's clearly stated in the thread

For me they have. Plenty of good information given by some of the nice helpful chaps here. If I had my way I'd delete all the time wasting and putrid comments here and just leave in the actual DIY related stuff, but I can't

One enough for a room? Say 3 x 3 meters ?

My sparks designed it. Looking forward now to running the cables tomorrow. Thanks guys so far for the tips, you know who you are. If anyone wants to recommend a decent pendant please do. :lol: banallsheds is still here

So provide constructive feedback and answer the question with a suggestion

I'm not going to go away and read about current and voltage. I'm not meddling with live electricity I'm running cable with my ex-sparky friend. You misconstrue what I've actually said a number of times. You don't shine to the idea of someone with no electrical training going near a cable, I...

Arr what I mean to say is the ring circuit cabling runs around the kitchen and lounge, and the combined area of lounge/kitchen is no more than 100m2. Obviously the circuit comes off into the socket and then continues on. Haven't run in any boxes yet just the cable

I'm quite taken back by the amount of time you invest in meddling and obstructing peoples efforts. You read my earlier comments, help or GO AWAY

It's not against the law and you don't need a doctorate to run dead cable. The entire system will be inspectable from start to finish, no boards fitted back, no connections covered up. I don't care if you're not happy with this, no pleasing some people

Recommend one for lounge, kitchen, I'm all ears

Thanks chap. Ran the lounge and kitchen socket cables today, and my friend suggested 2.5mm for boiler is fine so we ran that, which I'm glad now you say is right. Then ran 6mm independently for the cooker to C/U. The cooker extraction hood was ran as a spur off the ring circuit. For convenience...

Will make a note not to run the spur inside as you suggest and have outside next to bathroom light switch. Planning to have an adjustable switch for the fan to allow the fan to come on automatically when lights are turned on.

I'm not getting side tracked here with stupid bickering. If anyone would like to suggest to me a decent, good value lounge and kitchen pendant I'm all ears. There are loads, but obviously I want something that's going to do the job