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Thank you all.. merely fyi,but last weekends old socket (face plate) wires were bared ends,no brass pin crimp,not folded,not twisted together..and genuinely fell out during removal of face plate.. really is world's within worlds,even a "relatively" or so I thought,easy to answer question...

i did use a gas soldering iron... :lol: ..thanks flameport, so whats the answer...? ..dont you OFTEN find the wires loose in sockets?? ..in a modern rcd type box would the loose wires cause trips, and hence investigations would be made?

Hi all (I had often found myself "directed" to this site, and getting engrossed!!) So, hey, I am a newbie, my question.. why are ring mains not solder jointed at their terminations?? ..i have changed a few socket face plates over the years, and SOO often the wires are loose in the socket...