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will this setup still allow control of the two lights independently and two way still ?

that cable 3 just goes to the light its not the usual line and switched line etc

He too is NICEIC registered and has been a spark for 20+ years, I don't understand why he is not doing this, is this setup really that uncommon ?

So basically as follows First Floor Switch (3-Gang Switch) Total Cables: 5 Cable 1: Twin & Earth (Supply cable ) Cable 2: 3-Core & Earth (to ground floor switch) Cable 3: 3-Core & Earth (to ground floor switch) Cable 4: Twin & Earth (to first floor hallway light) Cable 5: Twin & Earth (to...

Hi Everyone So the second spark is now confused by the light wiring, the setup is basically Ground Floor: Hallway Light: One light fixture. Two-Gang Switch: Gang 1: Controls the ground floor hallway light (two-way switching with the first floor switch). Gang 2: Controls the first floor...

usually checkatrade or more recently now niceic - but clearly I'm just unlucky, I suppose on the plus side it taught me alot about electrics now

I agree there isn't a purely electrical reason for an isolator, I think manufacturers only do this to limit their liability most likely but really its not needed - I only argued this point with that electrician as it was agreed prior to the start of the works that he would install it given the...

@JohnW2 you might find this amusing, I argued with that electrician about why he did not install an isolator for the bathroom fan despite him knowing the fan model/manual that specifically states it needs an isolator in their specification. in his argument he sent me a screenshot of a comment...

so to give some context about my history with sparks in the last 5 years 1st guy came to fix a light switch issue ended up breaking the other light and no longer worked 2nd guy came to install power to my shed and ended up causing a fault and the shed never worked 3rd guy I got to install an...

Yeah I tried to explain that to him but unfortunately he has the 'I'm an electrician' card and I unfortunately do not lol yeah it’s leading to that tbh

Update: i spoke with him today and initially he said “what regulation is that ?” Then I explained about the zones then he said “as long as cables are either going horizontally or vertically then its fine”

he could argue that he would want the money for the first fix, I'm not sure how to argue my way out of this. I was thinking of getting another electrician to inspect the first fix then report back.

I see, so I assume the same would apply in ceiling joists as they are covered with plasterboard isolating them.

I read somewhere that the clips need to be metal too, does this apply in this case ?

haven't paid yet but problem is I don't know how to challenge this as NICEIC wont do anything unless I have a written complaint and give the gy time to fix but we don't have time as other trades need to get in

its meant to be for an isolator switch for a ventilation fan in the room

its terrible, even more so when some members make it look like their membership with the NICEIC is there to protect you 'the customer'

see attached, what's your thoughts ?

whats even more annoying is NICEIC are useless as unless I go through the process they cant do anything, even if I complained to the electrician via message or whatsapp they wont get involved apparently unless its a written complaint - and they are supposed to ensure their certified sparks are...

in the first image to the right is where the external front lights are and to the left it goes to the box that has the livign room light switch in the second image that large bundle of cables goes under the staircase where from there it will then go to a cupboard that will have the new consumer...