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Thankyou everyone for your advice and comments, I really do appreciate your time and I'm glad I asked the questions. I'm going to go with the 5-6 picture, accept that there will always be some water in the first connector, and I'm feeling very confident that it will work this time. Thankyou...

Hi Hugh Thanks so much for your reply. I found some info on the thin plastic ring, and it seems it might be a specific design for MacAlpine .. which is fair enough. The ring doesn’t seem broken, but it’s not continuous, so presumably that’s the way it is, and it’s back inside the black seal...

Busy fitting a new toilet, and the soil pipe comes out of the floor and has a big thick concrete collar around it .. which I don’t want to have to remove for fear of damage to the soil pipe altogether. I removed the old fashioned toilet and fitting a back to wall and boxing in the cistern. I’m...