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hey...thanks for this...I would never have believed it, but might give it a try...I just dont want to ruin the expensive pipe...do you know anyone who actually uses one of these regularly aside from popeye? (kind of a serious question!)..pete

er no..partly coz I'm not much of a negotiator and secondly because I dont have a ball park price in my head apart from the single quote. I was hoping to go online as in general prices seem cheaper, but I will go the plumbers merchant route if I have to...and I havent seen a cheap 28mm pipe...

looking for a good source of 28mm copper pipe by the meter (cheapest I have seen was 180-00 for 30 meters!) and a suitable bending tool (For wood burning stove boiler thermosyphon)..thanks..pete