Another pair of incompetant civil servants.

Many of my neighbours are reluctant to pursue the matter with either the police or the council for fear of the kinds of reprisals I myself have experienced.
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Not sure what the council are supposed to do, what does moving them achieve.

I blame the neighbours and police, obvious the police should have arrested them and took it seriously, but neighbours should stick together, **** society.
 
LastMagicBean said:
Hardly the fault of the Police though.
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Really?

It was the fault of the drug-dealing neighbours, of course, but both the council and the police should have acted.
Now that it's too late, they say that they are sorry:

"A spokesman for Nottinghamshire Police said the comments in the email were ‘regrettable’.
Broxtowe Council vowed to ‘learn lessons’ from the case."

Oh well, that makes it all alright then, doesn't it?

Both the council and the police have responsibilities. I believe they failed to follow them in this case. So long as they turn a blind eye to these yobs, the country will continue its inexorable journey down the toilet and round the U-bend.
 
I had a neighbour who was the original "Neighbour from hell." Her violent outbursts were legendary. Her violent, alcoholic boyfriend was in prison more often than he was out (thank Christ). Both me and almost all the neighbours complained to the council about her on a regular basis. Nothing was done in 4yrs. Despite warnings from the council that her behaviour was going to lead to eviction, they did absolutely nothing. It never even got to eviction, and was never likely to.
Sadly (or gladly as the case maybe) she was found dead about 3 wks ago. Alcohol finally finishing her off.
Never mind though, I'm sure our council will find some piece of human detritus to fill the vacant property.
Why councils up and down the country, don't take complaints against tenants more seriously, I just don't know. Perhaps the first qualification to become a tenant officer, is to live in a council house on some sink estate somewhere, so at least they can have a bit of empathy with the people making never ending complaints about the same families all the time.
 
ellal said:
AronSearle said:
ellal said:
AronSearle said:
but neighbours should stick together, **** society.
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Didn't you notice...a certain senile old bat destroyed 'society'!
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Yes, thatcher the dictator single handedly changed the face of society and destroyed social cohesion, without her everyone would have had jobs and everyone would be friends with they neighbour.

:roll:
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She had/has many disciples... :wink:
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I agree, if not for maggie and her disciples, we would all look like this...

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joinerjohn said:
Why councils up and down the country, don't take complaints against tenants more seriously, I just don't know. Perhaps the first qualification to become a tenant officer, is to live in a council house on some sink estate somewhere, so at least they can have a bit of empathy with the people making never ending complaints about the same families all the time.
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I think we'd all agree that there are good council house tenants as well as bad. My wife's grandmother was one (a good one!).

Most councils, as far as I am aware, are responsible for more than one council house estate. On that basis, would it not be possible to segregate the bad from the good?

My proposal is that at least one estate should be set aside for the unsociable yobs; the others for those who have some self-respect. Any misbehaviour from a tenant on a 'good' estate and he/she (and the rest of the household) should immediately be removed to one of the 'bad' estates, where the tenants will all be as bad as each other and should, therefore, get on very well together (like hell)!

I really cannot see any practical reason why this idea should not be adopted, apart from everybody's favourite 'human rights' rules of course.

Better still, they could erect a bloody great fence around it too!
 
JBR, I reckon councils themselves try a bit of social engineering (much like central government do) They encourage a "Good" social mix of all sorts. For example. The square, where I live, is supposed to be for tenants over the age of 50. In the past 3 yrs, we've had an 18yr old given a flat, (evicted after 2 yrs, drug dealing, reported to the council within the first fortnight of moving in.) A 32 yr old given a flat. (moved by the council after 6 months. (she almost set the flat on fire by trying to bypass her leccy meter with 2.5mm cable). Now the flat she lived in has been given to a 24 yr old lad. Second week he was there, a group of lads put his windows in. He has parties late into the night. Has the police there at least once a week. Generally get's everyone's backs up. Is suspected of fencing stolen gear, police raided him and removed 7 plasma screen TV's, 10 BluRay players and about 20 games machines.(he claims they were all his, but has no proof of purchase/ownership)
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JBR said:
My proposal is that at least one estate should be set aside for the unsociable yobs
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The problem with that is you just create sink estates where the children who grow up there will be ****ed, may as well just send them to jail at 16 and save everyone time and money.

I don't think the council should deal with this, they should just provide sensibly priced housing.

The police and society should deal with such people.

The police utterly failed as they made others fearful of helping, but also people should be more willing to put their neck out.
 
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