Because they can see the harm its doing.

[Elsa TLC]

Excepting the fact that our economy has not

Sometimes listening to you lot you'd think so.

Nowhere, I just said it.

No you didn't

 

[transam]

Spain said they need 20 million migrants over the next couple of decades (???) think that was the time line ?? May be more

Or there country / economy will collapse ??

WAy I see it they could all go there ???

Spains central bank has put a figure on the projected short fall of labour in a report published in April
It said the country will need around 25 million immigrants over the next 30 years

The Spanish Pm said

“The contribution of immigrant workers to our economy is fundamental as to its sustainability of our social security system and pensions”

Way I see it all unwanted ? Illegal migrants can go to Spain

Sorted

 

[Notch7]

people like Elsa just want to scream “I don’t want them here”


But the situation is that there are a lot of displaced people across Europe, coming from mostly from North Africa and the Middle East……screaming about it won’t change that fact.




Why can’t we have a grown up discussion about how to solve this crisis?

 

[Brigadier]

Spains central bank has put a figure on the projected short fall of labour in a report published in April
It said the country will need around 25 million immigrants over the next 30 years

The Spanish Pm said

“The contribution of immigrant workers to our economy is fundamental as to its sustainability of our social security system and pensions”

Way I see it all unwanted ? Illegal migrants can go to Spain

Sorted

The number of illegals who remain here is trifling, and what they take is similarly so.

And if you think that we can stop all immigration, who's going to pay for our social security systems and pensions then?

 

[transam]

The number of illegals who remain here is trifling, and what they take is similarly so.

And if you think that we can stop all immigration, who's going to pay for our social security systems and pensions then?

In order to pre empt the national disaster that is likely to happen in the UK ( total economic collapse )
Best advised you move to Spain ?? May be ?
Obviously a country of vision and future proofing there economy ??

 

[carmanmemoranda]

people like Elsa just want to scream “I don’t want them here”


But the situation is that there are a lot of displaced people across Europe, coming from mostly from North Africa and the Middle East……screaming about it won’t change that fact.




Why can’t we have a grown up discussion about how to solve this crisis?

It's like it only affects 1 country in the world.

Typical farage fodder behaviour. Unable to see far enough to understand

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Do you have the numbers to back that up?

They've crossed a dozen safe countries, they're all young men (where are all the women and childre, did they leave them behind in danger?), many are from countries that are perfectly safe and have destroyed their documents to hide the fact. Plus they all have a wedge in their back pockets to pay traffickers.

Wakey, wakey!

 

[Notch7]

They've crossed a dozen safe countries, they're all young men, many are from countries that are perfectly safe and have destroyed their documents to hide the fact. Plus they all have a wedge in their back pockets to pay traffickers.

Wakey, wakey!

Regan thinks people who escape war have documents

obviously Regan thinks Assad who was the brutal leader of Syria would make sure everybody was issued with a passport before they fled his bombs

 

[carmanmemoranda]

They've crossed a dozen safe countries, they're all young men (where are all the women and childre, did they leave them behind in danger?), many are from countries that are perfectly safe and have destroyed their documents to hide the fact. Plus they all have a wedge in their back pockets to pay traffickers.

Wakey, wakey!

And we are the only country affected?

No chance that we (and others) may be behind the reasons they need/want to flee ? Wars, conflicts, politics etc.

Might be better to improve things for them in their own countries rather than just trying to pretend we can avoid movement of people?

 

[ReganAndCarter]

And we are the only country affected?

No chance that we (and others) may be behind the reasons they need/want to flee ? Wars, conflicts, politics etc.

Might be better to improve things for them in their own countries rather than just trying to pretend we can avoid movement of people?

Who said we are the only country affected?

We don't owe the inhabitants of a country a free ride just because The US fancied a bit of regime change and crooked politicians like Blair hung onto their coat tails.

How about THEY improve things in their own countries? Or is it liberal thinking to patronise them by saying only we can sort their problems out and they are powerless to sort themselves out?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Who said we are the only country affected?

So it's a worldwide issue, it's not simple.

We don't owe the inhabitants of a country a free ride just because The US fancied a bit of regime change and crooked politicians like Blair hung onto their coat tails.

You do understand how we have no real power and now need to jump when told to ?

How about THEY improve things in their own countries?

Who might have made things so bad ? Not the west of course.

Or is it liberal thinking to patronise them by saying only we can sort their problems out and they are powerless to sort themselves out?

Not really liberal thinking, just common sense

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Regan thinks people who escape war have documents

Notchy thinks there is war in France.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

You do understand how we have no real power and now need to jump when told to ?

Yes, but not by The US. It's the sinister forces who control world finances and prop up failed states like ours with oceans of borrowed money.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Regan thinks people who escape war have documents

Notchy thinks there is war in Albania.

(A significant percentage of illegal immigrants are Albanian.)

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Yes, but not by The US. It's the sinister forces who control world finances and prop up failed states like ours with oceans of borrowed money.

USA tells us when to jump, and how high.