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Catalonia, EU turns a blind eye.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Vinty, 15 Oct 2019.

  1. Vinty

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    State of democracy in Europe today, organise a democratic referendum and get jailed for up to 13 years.
    Catalonia and Scotland have the most developed independence movements in Europe.
    Wee Nicola Sturgeon should stop moaning and rejoice that she lives in a free country were she can slag off Britain and not end up in jail for doing it.

    So far the EU have said nothing about Spain's fascist behaviour, the leopard just can't change it spots so it seems, as longs as the UK remains in the EU it will tainted by its association with fascists.
     
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  3. JohnD

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    Will you be supporting a referendum organised by Sinn Fein for NI to join RoI?
     
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  4. ellal

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    But quitters keep telling us that the EU makes our laws.
    It seems that isn't so, and individual states can follow their own laws...
    Whether you like those laws or not is irrelevant.

    But it's interesting that you equate Catalonia and Scotland...

    Scotland cannot by law organise a binding 'democratic referendum' without Westminster's approval.
    (the same as in Catalonia vis-a-vis Spain)

    If they did so, then any organising members would find themselves in court!
    Because the Treason Act extended English treason laws across Scotland...

    Of course Scotland does have the power to hold an 'advisory' referendum - but we all know the absolute legal mess that doing such a thing gets you into!

    Scottish voters in their referendum were told that the only way to guarantee staying in the EU was to vote against independence...

    Are you now suggesting that Scotland should be independent, and thus free to be in the EU?
     
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    The difference with Catalan is they would be a wealthy independent country.
     
  6. Mottie

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    Exactly that. I had a Spanish tutor that used to accompany some students to me. I asked him what it was all about and he told me that it was basically because they were a wealthy region and didn’t want to share their wealth with the rest of the country.
     
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    So time for London to leave the Brexiteers up north. Excellent idea.

    Londinium it is.
     
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  8. ellal

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    Excellent indeed!

    Let the parasites find their hand outs elsewhere.

    Mind you, they've already voted against a large funding source...

    Oops!

    Maybe we could have a modern day 'partition'...

    Quitters head up to the wasteland, and remainers get to keep the spoils down south (y)
     
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    Works for me (y)
     
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    No doubt the SNP are a right wing anti foreigner group harking back to a time when Scotland ruled the world. Just like every brexit voter is anti foreigner and imperialistic.

    My guess is that they are getting excited, because they think JC will offer a ref2 up as the price for power.
     
  12. ellal

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    Hmm...

    Catalonia GDP per head: €32k

    Scotland GDP per head: €39k

    I guess maths isn't your strong point :rolleyes:
     
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    You assume these are constants post independence? I guess thinking isn’t yours.
     
  14. JohnD

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    and are you assuming that he was right?
     
  15. ellal

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    I'm sorry you've been caught out yet again...

    It must be awfully tiring for you to think up some or other hypothetical reasoning to hide your repeated ignorance :)

    Did you apply your same reasoning to Catalonia?

    They are losing companies in droves!
     
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    No wonder the country, sorry, the world is up sh1t creek - all the experts on international affairs are too busy posting on a poxy DIY forum to help the poor governments out.
     
  17. ellal

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    Sometimes the b*llshitters like your good self have to be pulled up on the carp that you pass off as facts!

    Otherwise the lies simply spread...

    And you can see all around where that gets us :rolleyes:
     
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