DIY TRV installation

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We have a 16 year old gas central heating system with no TRV's.

We will be replacing our boiler next year when we build our extension, all pipework to radiators is 10mm microbore.

How easy is it to DIY install TRV's? (All microbore enter's/exits each side at the bottom of the rads)

I am more than happy with the procedure to drain the system down etc, I am more concerned with how long/easy it will be to install the TRV's.

Will I have to install new copper olives?
 
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Fairly straightforward and new olives will be supplied with the trvs.

You will need reducers to connect to your microbore. Ask your plumbers merchants for them.

You will need a rad allen key to take out old rad valves too.

Use ptfe on valve threads that go into the new rad. :D
 
Bahco said:
Fairly straightforward and new olives will be supplied with the trvs.

You will need reducers to connect to your microbore. Ask your plumbers merchants for them.

You will need a rad allen key to take out old rad valves too.

Use ptfe on valve threads that go into the new rad. :D

:D Dunno why but that little smile at the end said so much made me laugh anywho.
 
use hemp and boss white on the valve threads :evil: :mad: :cry:
 
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Thanks guys.

What's special about a Rad allen key? (I have a large selection of std allen keys)

What's the regulations on where I have to fit TRV's when having a new boiler installed because of extension? (One person said upstairs only, another said whole house apart from 1 radiator)

Do I need to use a reducer, can't I use one of these:-

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=33140&ts=82444

or

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=64739&ts=82444

or

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=53183&ts=82444

or a selection on here which are cheaper:-
http://www.toolstation.com/index.html?code=75467

Any recommendations on the above TRV's?

What's a lockshield?

Cheers

Paul
 
You can get 10mm trv's, or use a 15mm one with one of these "reducing sets", which won't be visible:
p1853435_m.jpg


Honeywell, Danfoss, Drayton, maybe Pegler, Myson are OK. They all pack up eventually.
 
Paul_Thomas said:
What's special about a Rad allen key? (I have a large selection of std allen keys)
A rad allen key is one that you don't mind seeing damaged and destroyed as you sweat and swear when undoing an impossibly tight rad tail.

What's the regulations on where I have to fit TRV's when having a new boiler installed because of extension? (One person said upstairs only, another said whole house apart from 1 radiator)
I believe the only relevant legal requirement is the following, from the Building Regulations:

[code:1]PART L CONSERVATION OF FUEL AND POWER

L1 Reasonable provision shall be made for the conservation of fuel and power in buildings by—

(a) limiting heat gains and losses—

(i) through thermal elements and other parts of the building
fabric; and

(ii) from pipes, ducts and vessels used for space heating, space
cooling and hot water services;

(b) providing and commissioning energy efficient fixed building
services with effective controls;[/code:1]
Thinking pragmatically, it's traditional to keep the upstairs slightly cooler, so those rads would certainly shut off first, but, since TRVs throughout are an effective way to meet the requirement, you'd have to show that TRVs on upstairs only are an equally effective measure. Many systems require that one rad has no TRV on it, but not all systems.

Do I need to use a reducer, can't I use one of these:-

<list of URLs to TRV products>
Yes you can.

or a selection on here which are cheaper:-
http://www.toolstation.com/index.html?code=75467

Any recommendations on the above TRV's?
Personally I'd steer clear of the 'brandless' products. As ChrisR said, they all go wrong in the end, but you get what you pay for, and it's hard to beat a Drayton TRV for value.

What's a lockshield?
An ordinary valve that is set partly open in order to balance system flow, whose spindle is then shielded with a cosmetic plastic cap, or a screw-on metal shield, to discourage tampering. Some lockshields have a nut that locks the spindle.

On a rad with a TRV the lockshield is a non concept, because the non-TRV is set and left fully open.
 
Currently all of our upstairs radiators are off apart form the bathroom.
This is normal for us all year round because we don't like the bedrooms hot to sleep in.

Almost seems a shame to install TRV's!
 

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