Hi I HAVE HAVING A NEW KITCHEN FITTED AND I HAVE BEEN AVISDED TO PUT A SEPERTATE RING MAIN FOR THE KITCHEN. IS THIS CORRECT, IS IT A NEW REG ,OR IS IT JUST ADVISEABLE. THANKYOU
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It is a ring final circuit, not a ring main.
It is not a reg to put in a ring final for a kitchen, it depends on the loads, and where the appliances are.
It may be sensible to provide radial circuits to the appliances.
I suggest you consult with a registered, competent electrician who can advise you on the design and other matters...
PS Do not forget that this work is notifiable (as is your rewire query).
Do read this before you do anything. http://www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:part_p:diy_electrical_work_and_the_law
Turn off your caps lock.
It is a ring final circuit, not a ring main.
It is not a reg to put in a ring final for a kitchen, it depends on the loads, and where the appliances are.
It may be sensible to provide radial circuits to the appliances.
I suggest you consult with a registered, competent electrician who can advise you on the design and other matters...
PS Do not forget that this work is notifiable (as is your rewire query).
Do read this before you do anything. http://www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:part_p:diy_electrical_work_and_the_law
lets not get petty over terminology, this is after all a DIY help forum and not everyone in here are going to be professionals in the given field they need help in ( or why would they require help in the first place? )
"ring main" is a perfectly acceptible layman term for a ring final circuit..
it's also not necesary to consult a REGISTERED electrician, there are plenty of non registered electricians out there that are more than competent to do the work but chose not to pay £500 a year for a sticker on their van..
as for the original question, yes, in a rewire or new installation it's common practice to provide the kitchen with it's own dedicated ring main, and as suggested above, radials for the larger appliances such as the washer, dryer, dishwasher, seperate oven, fridge/freezer etc..
the radials are usually switched above the counter, with an unswitched socket below the counter...
"ring main" is a perfectly acceptible layman term for a ring final circuit..
it's also not necesary to consult a REGISTERED electrician, there are plenty of non registered electricians out there that are more than competent to do the work but chose not to pay £500 a year for a sticker on their van..
as for the original question, yes, in a rewire or new installation it's common practice to provide the kitchen with it's own dedicated ring main, and as suggested above, radials for the larger appliances such as the washer, dryer, dishwasher, seperate oven, fridge/freezer etc..
the radials are usually switched above the counter, with an unswitched socket below the counter...
Yes, there are a number of COR sparkys out there. But I have gotten my quals and pay up every year to NAPIT and keep all my knowledge and equipment up to date at vast expense to be under the Part P.
I therefore do not recognise, nor encourage, the use of the 'grey' electrician market.
I therefore do not recognise, nor encourage, the use of the 'grey' electrician market.
I also keep my test equipment calibrated, my knowledge up to date, my van washed and cleaned but choose not to subscribe to a part -P registering body because the work I do is mainly industrial and commercial ( I have as yet not had to do any domestic work since before the introduction of part P )..
so does that make me any less competent than you to advise on wiring matters?
so does that make me any less competent than you to advise on wiring matters?
The thread, and this forum, is focussed on domestic electrical works.
My comments relate to that.
Do you see much DIY electrical work being done in industrial and commercial installations?
My comments relate to that.
Do you see much DIY electrical work being done in industrial and commercial installations?
no but that's not my point.. and the information you provided was never berated by me.. just your obvious dislike of electricians who are not member of the same "boys club" as yourself..
because I do not pay money to be a member of a scheme that I have no current use for, you seem to think that my opinion is somehow less relavent than yours..
I have the same training as you ( with the possible exclusion of any "part P" training you have ) , and have done quite a few domestic installs and the occasional rewire, but at the moment my employment is commercial / industrial in nature..
because I do not pay money to be a member of a scheme that I have no current use for, you seem to think that my opinion is somehow less relavent than yours..
I have the same training as you ( with the possible exclusion of any "part P" training you have ) , and have done quite a few domestic installs and the occasional rewire, but at the moment my employment is commercial / industrial in nature..
personally, I would suggest that you are more likely to get a satisfactory job if you use an independent or small local firm that is a member if a competent person scheme, and you are much more likely to get an unsatisfactory job if the electrical work is done by a kitchen fitter.
No doubt there are some kitchen fitters who do a good job.[/i]
No doubt there are some kitchen fitters who do a good job.[/i]
Coljack, I wasnt berating you or your experience - your posts tell that you know your onions. The same for many others here and elsewhere.
However, on the Internet, anyone can be a dog so what I will do, when a DIYer is seeking advice and the task is obviously out of his competence, or if he asks where to find an electrician, is to suggest he goes for a registered spark.
That way, at least, he will then stand a chance of getting someone who has undergone some form of checking by a third party.
However, on the Internet, anyone can be a dog so what I will do, when a DIYer is seeking advice and the task is obviously out of his competence, or if he asks where to find an electrician, is to suggest he goes for a registered spark.
That way, at least, he will then stand a chance of getting someone who has undergone some form of checking by a third party.
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