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Freesat TV Satellite box upgrade

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Hi All, We are decorating the living room and we have this annoying box for the tv its freesat Gurang box but it isnt working proppely , we can use the remote propely only get a few channels and the cables just look really messy, so we are wondering if there is any other system we can use or a newer version of this box? I don't think the external satellites on the external of the building is still in use
Any recommendations much appreciated
Thank you (:
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Well reading between the gobbledegook, you have a Sat box you want to replace ? Easy enough ,many options , Humax is one .Sat dish not working ? Then you won’t get any picture at all .
Please clarify and read what you have written before posting .
 
Hi, I'm not going to pretend i know anything, not even the simplest on TV'S hence posting for advice on here, and sorry the above wasn't as clear as i had hoped. The main point is whatever that Grundig box freesat is (it has a cable coming to it not the power cable possibly from a satellite not too sure it has a round end) we need something like that but newer, or if possible is there anyway i can use just one remote for my tv, currently there is 2 remotes one which controls the channels on the Grundig freesat box, and the other turns the tv on off ect. If possible i would only like 1 remote for the channels and the tv, we cant get all the channels either like BBC or any other apart from ITV3 which is annoying We have both working picture and sound, its just not working exactly as it should (e.g being able to switch channels). Thank you for reading my post
 
Get a used Humax if you can find one or a Freesat Recordable 500GB 4K TV Box around £220 for recordable or £145 for non recordable UHD-X.
 
I don't think the external satellites on the external of the building is still in use
You need to find out if it works or not.
Ask others in the building and the Buildings Management Company (Factors in Scotland).
If no sat signal no use buying a freesat box...

Likely, however it is working and you have a Standard Def DVB-S Grundig box that no longer receives BBC at all... and you have ignored all the on-screen warnings that occurred a few years ago!

If so a new freesat 4k box should be a simple replacement. Find the model number label on back or underneath and post it here to confirm it is SD only.

Any Humax freesat box would have to be second hand.

Freesat box remotes can usually be programmed to switch TV on/off and control volume... with a few rare exceptions.
 
Regarding the idea of a single remote control that works both the TV and a Sat box. Yes, that's possible. Your Logik TV should have something called HDMI CEC (HDMI control). Does your Grundig Freesat box connect to the TV via HDMI? If so, switching on HDMI control for both the box and the TV will give you the Grundig remote as the main controller. Switching on the box will turn on the TV and set it to the correct HDMI input. The volume buttons on the Grundig remote should operate the TV, but do check the manual as some boxes require the handset be programmed first. Switching off the Grundig box will turn off the TV.

HDMI control is a bit hit-or-miss with Humax boxes. You might want to stick to the Freesat 4K boxes from Argos that @foxhole suggested. They'll also work fine with a 1080p TVs.

I put together the image below for you. This might not be for your TV, but it shows that HDMI CEC is a feature of some Logik TVs. .

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Regarding the inability to receive BBC-1, there could be a few reasons for this.

* the box needs 2 sat cables attached, but you have only one
* there's a problem with the LNB (the lump at the end of the satellite dish arm where the cable(s) connect)
* a fault with the Grundig box
* some other undiagnosed issue relating to info you haven't yet supplied

The broadcast channels for satellite for the type of receiver that the Grundig is are split between four groups based on a combination of frequency (high or low) and polarisation (vertical or horizontal). The receiver switches between the four groups depending on the channel being received. ITV3 is the low frequency horizontal group.

Since BBC One is regional, there are multiple versions of BBC One depending on the TV region it's intended for. The regional variations are split across the horizontal and the vertical polarisations of the low frequency group. If you're able to get ITV 3, but you can't get BBC One, it would suggest that you live in a TV region where BBC One is in the low frequency vertical group. (see the graphic I made for you below)

Your reception problems could be an issue with the LNB, or there's a cabling issue which means the receiver is only seeing the horizontal signals.

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If you're up to doing a bit of your own investigation work, you can use the channel and transponder listing here to work out if the issue is related to the polarisation. (FYI - high or low frequency should make no difference unless your box has a fault where it can't emit the 22kHz tone for high/low switching.)

https://en.satexpat.com/tv/uk/freesat/

Work your way through the list and write down the channels you can't get. If it's an LNB fault then a pattern should emerge that all vertical channels are affected.
 
Will do fingers crossed its only the box!!!I will post on here what box im looking at getting before i order it, as well as looking at the box we currently have, thanks all appreciate the advice
 
NB a very big clue to me is the Freesat logo on the front panel rather than the Freesat HD logo.

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/3043256/Grundig-Gufsat02sd.html#manual looks like the box above and has SD in the model number (GUFSAT02SD), scart only, no hdmi connection.

Whereas the HD version is https://www.manualslib.com/manual/63373/Grundig-Gufsat01hd.html#manual and looks completely different.
The earlier SD version had buttons on the front panel https://www.manualslib.com/manual/905879/Grundig-Gufsat01sd.html

 
I think they just want a way to watch some TV, maybe a new TV with an internet connection/Freeview/Freesat tuners after establishing what's available to the property.
 
Remove power from the box for 3 minutes, then power it up again.
See if it brings back the channels your missing.

Show some good quality photo's of the connections atthe back of the box, especially the connection that goes to the aerial/satellite dish as that may be the issue. Have a look outside and see if your dish is still on the wall correctly and facing the same way that others in the neighbourhood are facing.

You may be a bit up schitts creek with getting a replacement box that can record, I went through this only recently and ended up getting a smart TV and a firestick to stream only. (I do miss sky lol).

Listen to Lucid, he's da man! :)
 
Another question (as well as the Grundig model number) will be the Logik TV model number...

If it is SD only, as I suspect the Grundig to be, and has analogue RCA/scart only inputs it may be new TV time.
If it has at least one HDMI input then it's OK (provided the hdmi input works).
 

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