How’s Rachael from accounts getting on…..

You started on at Labour almost after day 1 :rolleyes:

Great so how long do we give labour before we see a stop to things getting worse let alone and improvement. Would it have to be 14 years before people are allowed to say labour are crap.
You get a chance in 3 years time...

If deform get in could you tell us how long you'd give them before realising they are crap?
 
You started on at Labour almost after day 1
It was virtually day one that they cut the OAP winter fuel. And before you start on the "rich pensioners" stuff you have to understand that It wasn’t the actual principle behind it.
Due to the speed that they announced it clearly they had been planning it for months, no mention of it in their manifesto, so from day one they demonstrated that they can not be trusted
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You get a chance in 3 years time...
If deform get in could you tell us how long you'd give them before realising they are crap?
What makes you think I want to vote reform. Just because me and Tony Blair think that labour are failing doesn’t mean I am going to vote reform
 
And that has relevance because?
Because he has finally realised (I hope) that he made mistakes and he doesn't want Liebour to make even worse ones now.

IMHO I could never make my mind up who led the worst and most damaging government the UK had - Wilson, Blair, May, Bojo - but today I think it could be Starmer and his crew.
 
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Well done again Labour
I do think someone in power needs to think about they encourage employers to get school leavers into their business (workforce). High starting salaries is a disincentive to employ along with high NI costs and, sadly private pension figures.

My first apprenticeship (C&J) wage was around 35% of a skilled man - and all I learnt was how to clean previously used timber for reuse (and introduced to Mrs Sweeping Brush :-) ), that lasted 5 months before I was moved on with the reduction in orders for the company. My second apprenticeship, a 'Banksman' lasted 8 months at the same salary but I also was qualified as a travelling crane operator and trained but not qualified as a Fork Lift driver before I moved onto my 3rd apprenticeship which I stayed with.

Had I not managed to get the 3rd apprenticeship I would probably have become Self Employed with encouragement from the family becoming part of the building industry 'Lump' in the 1970's - which in many ways is where I ended up up as a C&J in my 60's.

Today, the minimum wage surely has to be a discouragement to take on unskilled school leavers, not just their wage (60,70% ? of a skilled man), but the other costs (N.I., Pension, Training/College, increased time for the skilled man to show/instruct and complete their work) and will the youth stay with the job? (And I know I'm not a good model in that respect).

Bring back indentured apprentices at affordable wages is my opinion.
 
Unfortunately, Labour haven't figured out that their flagship legislation has disrupted the markets they intended to improve. Their new Employment Rights Act has had a disastrous impact on unemployment. 60% of 16-24 year olds are impacted.
 
Just watching a piece on the news about this. They pointed out that min wage for adults has gone up 22% in 2 years and min wage for 17-21 year olds has gone up 48% in the same period. Add to this that the employers NI contribution has gone from 13.8% to 15% and that’s on wages above £5,000 when it only used to apply above to wages above £9,100. Then there’s new employee rights etc and all those things together have made employers lay employees off and put a halt to recruitment. Thanks very much, Rachel.
 
Just watching a piece on the news about this. They pointed out that min wage for adults has gone up 22% in 2 years and min wage for 17-21 year olds has gone up 48% in the same period. Add to this that the employers NI contribution has gone from 13.8% to 15% and that’s on wages above £5,000 when it only used to apply above to wages above £9,100. Then there’s new employee rights etc and all those things together have made employers lay employees off and put a halt to recruitment. Thanks very much, Rachel.
Some on here said so at the time - but the vote labour forever lot just list all the "improvements" labour have done yet in each case its been a disaster and made everything worse.
 
Someone else can do the math but it seems that it takes 14 years for people to forget how **** the last labour government was before they vote in another one
 
Who on earth are going to vote for labour
they have alienated the pensioners with the winter fuel disaster
they have cut off the young with unaffordable business tax and min wage to employ one
They want to give 16 year olds the vote but at the same time banning them from social media - the very thing they hoped would be a good tool to brainwash them with
they have increased the cost to renters
everyone faces more eco tax under Milliband
they give jobs to people connected to paedophiles -Epstein and Mandelson
They have lost the muzlim vote they could once relay on.
Who in their right mind is remaining who would vote for labour
 
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