Legacy old underfloor heating resources for dealing with problems Kee, Nu-heat

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I was looking for information on people's problems with old legacy underfloor heating system installations and google was not coming up with much of interest at all.

Then I searched my own computer and found a forum thread I'd saved from many years ago from a now defunct forum Ebuild which talked about problems people were experiencing with Nu-heat and Kee contraflow systems and had some good advice within it. Many of the systems pre early year 2000's used santoprene tubing which then degraded and caused leaks years later, despite guarantees.

I put the thread through chatgpt and it came up with a summary which I'm posting in case this helps anyone who finds a legacy underfloor system on their hands. The thread itself is 20,000 words and quite detailed. Please bear in mind that ChatGPT can get things wrong.

I'd welcome other people's experiences of dealing with legacy systems and how they overcame problems.
 
️ Summary Report: Kee/NuHeat Underfloor Heating (UFH) Systems – Common Issues & Longevity Strategies

Background


Many homes installed Kee/NuHeat underfloor heating systems between the early 1990s and early 2000s. These systems often used Santoprene triple-layer "Contraflow" tubing, typically red or black in colour. Over time, users have reported system degradation, particularly pipe cracking, manifold leaks, and component failure.


Common Problems Identified

1. Pipe Deterioration

Black and red triple-layer pipes
can become brittle and crack over time, especially at stress points near manifold connectors.

Cracking often occurs due to:

Leaching of plasticisers

Hoop stress at fittings

Heat cycling and high operating temperatures

2. Leaks

Most failures are near copper manifolds or pipe joins, sometimes through ceilings.

Leaks can appear even when the heating system is off.

Some homeowners report multiple leaks over a short period as the system nears end-of-life.

3. Manifold & Pump Issues

Bronze pumps
were originally required; however, if the system is isolated, steel pumps can be used.

Solenoid valves and actuators commonly fail after years of use.

Temperature control and thermostats may fail or provide incorrect readings.

4. Scaling and Flow Problems

Systems using thermal stores often suffer from limescale buildup in coils, reducing hot water temperature.

This can also confuse thermostats and affect pump operation.


Maintenance & Life-Extension Tips

✔ Reduce Operating Temperature & Pressure


Lowering flow temperature and system pressure reduces stress on aging pipes.

Aim to run the system at the minimum temperature and pressure needed for comfort.

✔ Minimize Mechanical Stress

Ensure pipes are not pulled, bent, or under tension near manifolds.

Avoid placing items or building materials near exposed pipes.

✔ Replace Actuators & Upgrade Manifolds

Replace thermal actuators or solenoids that no longer open properly.

Retrofitting new manifolds is often possible and can greatly extend system usability.

✔ Consider Using Leak Sealer

Products like Fernox Leak Sealer F4 can be added as a temporary fix for minor weeping leaks.

It circulates in the system and seals leaks when it contacts air.

✔ Isolate & Pressure-Test Each Zone

A thorough pressure test of each UFH zone can identify hidden weaknesses.

If pipe loops in the floor are intact, they can be retained while new pipe sections and manifolds are added above floor level.

✔ Isolate UFH from Radiators

Some systems use a stainless steel heat exchanger to isolate UFH from the main heating circuit, avoiding inhibitor damage to pipes.

✔ Use Kick-Space Heaters in Unserviceable Areas

If radiators are hard to install (e.g., in a kitchen), fan-assisted plinth heaters from Smith’s Industries are a discreet solution.


When to Replace the System

You should consider full system replacement if:

Leaks are occurring in multiple, hard-to-reach areas

Pipe degradation is widespread


Replacement parts are no longer available or cost-effective

You're planning major renovations anyway

Replacement options include:

Standard radiators

Dry or wet UFH with modern plastic (e.g., PEX) pipe

Ducted warm air systems
like ComfortDisc (if minimal disruption is a goal)



Final Notes

No formal recall or compensation
seems to have been available from NuHeat.

Several users expressed frustration with lack of support.

A knowledgeable heating engineer is essential for evaluating your specific situation.

Look for an engineer with experience in retrofitting or phasing out Kee/NuHeat systems.
 
Overcome the problems by doing away with it. It's at least 25-30 years old now. Either fit a retrofit solution over the top of the existing floor or switch to radiators
 

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