National Grooming Gangs Inquiry Announced

[morqthana]

The point you are missing is THEY feel they are being called liars.

Because they don't understand the difference between "no, you are wrong about that" and "you're lying".

Just like other verbal abuse it doesn't matter if you didn't intend to offend as its the person receiving the abuse that counts.

A useful principle to remember.

Rest assured I will.

You are subjecting the women to exactly the same thing that allowed their abuse to go on.
This is what they have said themselves abut Philips.
: "Being publicly contradicted and dismissed by a government minister when you are a survivor telling the truth takes you right back to that feeling of not being believed all over again.

Let me ask you this. Imagine these women came out with a statement claiming that the enquiry, when it gets going, is only going to sit for two half-days a week, and they think it outrageous that it should be so part-time.

How should someone associated with running or setting up the enquiry respond to that false claim? What word(s) should they use?

What words can they use which won't be criticised by people who know so little about words that they too don't know the difference between "no, you are wrong", and "you are lying"?

 

[Knave of Hearts]

I suspect that many who are exploiting the opportunity to criticise the government are doing so purely to play political football with an emotive issue.

 

[morqthana]

So johnny said

I tell you again:
So far, your beloved child rapist gang members have been found to be Asian/Pakistani.
White rapists exist, but so far they have been found to be lone wolves, not organised in gangs.

That's the difference!

The gang members have a logistic plan in place to systematically groom and rape children. They believe it is ok to do this.

The others are dirty bast@rds who act on their animals instinct. They know they're criminals and they don't discuss their crimes with anyone, that's why they're not in gangs

If the enquiry finds white rapists gangs I'll withdraw this statement, but in the meantime this is the pure truth.

I gave him an example of a white rapist gang, and he said this:

Yes, they caught 3 white dirty b@stards recently.
Hardly comparable with historical gangs operating systematically since the 90s and involving more than 3 criminals.

and failed to make good on his promise.

"they caught 3 white dirty b@stards recently.
Hardly comparable with historical gangs operating systematically since the 90s and involving more than 3 criminals.

the defendants were part of "a malign friendship group" which preyed on the girl after they heard one of them had been able to have sex with her repeatedly.


Withdrawal awaited.

I wonder if he will also withdraw the allegations that people who point out the truth about non-Asian sex offenders are supporting or seeking to excuse the Asian ones?

And I wonder how comfortable he would be sitting down with the victims of that Bolton gang and telling them that their experiences were

Hardly comparable

with those of other girls because their abusers were fewer in number, and operated for a shorter time?

 

[Knave of Hearts]

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Withdrawal awaited.

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You must be new here.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

...---- try logging in with your two names on different devices that way you can post almost together and no one will know.

So you recognise that we are two different people? If we were one person we couldn't do it together, not even almost together.

It's obvious that realise your silly argument about people claiming that they were accused of lying was incorrect, so you've dome what all dishonourable posters do, resort to silly accusations.

 

[aveatry]

So you recognise that we are two different people? If we were one person we couldn't do it together, not even almost together.

It's obvious that realise your silly argument about people claiming that they were accused of lying was incorrect, so you've dome what all dishonourable posters do, resort to silly accusations.

Doth protest too much. ------ Morq likes your post. you couldn't be more obvious

 

[morqthana]

Doth protest too much. ------ Morq likes your post. you couldn't be more obvious

And you couldn't be more wrong.

But then you are one of those with so little regard for honesty that you DGAS if anything you write is true or not.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Doth protest too much. -

I'm sorry, I'm just teasing you.

if you had any knowledge of computing and the internet, you'd know that even if we both submitted a post at the exact same time, like now, it wouldn't prove anything.
I can type this comment, and leave it unposted for as long as I care to.
Then if I did the same on another PC, typing a comment but leaving it unposted,I could simply click on the 'post reply' at the same time on both PCs. I wouldn't need to go through any logging on, logging off, logging on routine.
You wouldn't be able to ascertain that they were two different PCs written by the same person, but just posted at the same time.

The sheer fact that you perceive us as being the same person does not make it true, just as someone perceiving they were called a liar, does not make it true.

 

[morqthana]

The sheer fact that you perceive us as being the same person does not make it true, just as someone perceiving they were called a liar, does not make it true.

He doesn't care what's true, and what isn't, when he writes these things.

 

[aveatry]

Now you are "both" dothing

 

[pete01]

You must be new here.

We thought you was

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Now you are "both" dothing

What does 'dothing' mean?

 

[Knave of Hearts]

We thought you was

Who asked you. I wasn't talking to you, so butt out.

 

[pete01]

Who asked you. I wasn't talking to you, so butt out.

It's a public forum ask your parents to tell you how they work

 

[morqthana]

It's a public forum ask your parents to tell you how they work

So you agree with him now, on that.

Every journey begins with a single step.