Plastering-only multifinsh????

[vituz]

Hi guys, I am lookig for advice abou plastering. I am quite good with rendering, but really rubish with skinmming(not enough skills, time to practice...)so I am wondering if there is on the market some kind of product-plaster for internal using, instead od multifinish stuff, which is workable(final flattening, smothinig) in the similar style like rendering.
Or generally what is the easiest way to get decent final surface?????

Thanks for any advice

 

[ad26]

Multi is surely your best bet, use two coats. (for skimming)

Get your walls pva'd night before pva again before you skim leaving it to get tacky before you start plastering.

Start on the top left (if your right handed) cover top to middle and then go bottom left to middle.

Get your first coat on covering the wall dont mess around trying to get it on flat just cover the wall.

now go back to the top left taking out lines and flatten it out. wall should now be looking fairly flat.

second coat mix up fresh plaster, thin coat now just to fill in anything missed.

once its gone off a bit get a spray bottle and give a light spray of water and flatten off working across the wall the same way you put on.

leave it for a bit longer and i use a brush with a bit of water brush on and trowel off (dont use to much water)

then final dry trowel off for polish.

Thats how i ve been doing it and getting the walls to a fairly good standard

 

[wozza56]

I fail to see how you can be good at rendering and rubbish at skimming as rendering is the harder of the two

 

[stevethespreader]

I fail to see how you can be good at rendering and rubbish at skimming as rendering is the harder of the two

he might only do rendering and hardly any skimming its the other way round for me plastering has gotten to the stage where its now broken down into specialist fields like your floor screeders who only do that a tiler for tiling and theres your renderers that only do rendering ive seen jobs advertised as not plasterer wanted but renderer wanted, now theres your tackers dry liners ect years ago the plasterer would have done the lot and i suppose some still do but not all, nowdays you get plasterers that just specialize in a few of the fields mentioned above

 

[Micilin]

I fail to see how you can be good at rendering and rubbish at skimming as rendering is the harder of the two

he might only do rendering and hardly any skimming its the other way round for me plastering has gotten to the stage where its now broken down into specialist fields like your floor screeders who only do that a tiler for tiling and theres your renderers that only do rendering ive seen jobs advertised as not plasterer wanted but renderer wanted, now theres your tackers dry liners ect years ago the plasterer would have done the lot and i suppose some still do but not all, nowdays you get plasterers that just specialize in a few of the fields mentioned above

Spot on Steve.

I've heard site agents talk about getting the "skimmers" in. I've done a load of staircases for firms who don't have the men to do them, because they are float and set and the rest of the job is setting boards .

As for rendering, getting rarer by the day. The trade is on the way out , I'm afraid and this new NVQ rubbish is the greatest waste of resources i have ever seen, and will finally kill plastering off as a trade.

For those of you who hate old farts going on, look away now ........

When I started out (I told you, here it comes ..) my old man said to me that when I could go into a house on my own, Tack and skim the ceilings, bead, float or stick and set the walls, form the arches, put up the roses and coving, screed the floors, render the outside and close the door behind me knowing that it was all nice and square, cleaned out for the next trade - l then he'd think about calling me a plasterer.




I'm still waiting>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[stevethespreader]

I fail to see how you can be good at rendering and rubbish at skimming as rendering is the harder of the two

he might only do rendering and hardly any skimming its the other way round for me plastering has gotten to the stage where its now broken down into specialist fields like your floor screeders who only do that a tiler for tiling and theres your renderers that only do rendering ive seen jobs advertised as not plasterer wanted but renderer wanted, now theres your tackers dry liners ect years ago the plasterer would have done the lot and i suppose some still do but not all, nowdays you get plasterers that just specialize in a few of the fields mentioned above

Spot on Steve.

I've heard site agents talk about getting the "skimmers" in. I've done a load of staircases for firms who don't have the men to do them, because they are float and set and the rest of the job is setting boards .

As for rendering, getting rarer by the day. The trade is on the way out , I'm afraid and this new NVQ rubbish is the greatest waste of resources i have ever seen, and will finally kill plastering off as a trade.

For those of you who hate old farts going on, look away now ........

When I started out (I told you, here it comes ..) my old man said to me that when I could go into a house on my own, Tack and skim the ceilings, bead, float or stick and set the walls, form the arches, put up the roses and coving, screed the floors, render the outside and close the door behind me knowing that it was all nice and square, cleaned out for the next trade - l then he'd think about calling me a plasterer.




I'm still waiting>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

yes lol the old spreads are the best all rounders ive had this discussion b4 at what stage of your plastering career or how long have you got to be plastering or how much of the fields of plastering have you got to have learnt b4 it is acceptable to be called a plasterer or feel comfortable being called a plasterer now days i think if your competent in your fields of plastering and producing good work then you can call yourself a plasterer otherwise the majority of us wouldent have a job title lol