Time to replace both basin & bath wastes so was looking at pop-ups. Then started looking at Screwfix, reviews of which suggest they are all varying degrees of garbage, regardless of the spend. Is that really the case or is there brand that doesn't leak/stick/disintegrate?
Pop-up Wastes - Are They All Poor?
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Afaik they all seem to fail like a lot of fancy schmancy crap. I bought a click-clack waste and didn’t last that long - circa 3 years. I’ve bought a replacement Viva one which is good for the money, but you can’t beat a good old fashioned slotted waste.
Vado are the best clacker wastes you can buy can get them cheaper on ebay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18592951...WtYFfYpSAa&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18592951...WtYFfYpSAa&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I haven’t had a click clack pop up waste that hasn’t gone wrong. I changed my basin one to one of these.
No connected moving parts. Nothing to go wrong. No problems since.
No connected moving parts. Nothing to go wrong. No problems since.
Just don't forget to grease the seal once a year or it will stretch and then eventually burst.
Pop ups are ok as long as the screw adjuster and bars are made of Stainless Steel. Some are just chromed steel and eventually rust. never liked them.
The captive plugs, as above, are a good alternative. Or a click clack that has a removeable core so it can be replaced.
My plumber fitted one of these in our ensuite refurb https://www.wolseley.co.uk/product/wirquin-wbk97w-basin-waste-spinner-slotted-11-4-chrome-plated/ (Trade account holders get a sizeable discount on that headline price). All metal, so no rubber o-ring (spawn of the Devil those with the o-rings), even the backnut! The flip disc can actually be removed if aligned just right - makes for easy cleaning of the waste beneath. Very nice.
Crosswater and McAlpine CW60SP-CB make similar designs. I've fitted ones branded Architekt on two other sinks, but they remain 100% captive.
My wife finds the flip type easy to open and close compared to any alternative designs.
Crosswater and McAlpine CW60SP-CB make similar designs. I've fitted ones branded Architekt on two other sinks, but they remain 100% captive.
My wife finds the flip type easy to open and close compared to any alternative designs.
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On the flip side, these can get stuck
we are in hard water area , and they are useless - we choose between the pop-up and the twist thing - pop-up all get stuck after 6 months or less - I use limescale remover on them and WD40 - all still useless and replaced 2 now with an old fashioned PLUG - in-fact, i should have purchased 2 more as i need to replace 2 others , mine have a brass cage and 1 broke.
Yes, what's wrong with a plug on the end of a chain? Or even, as in my kitchen sink, a plug with a handle?
Quick update that may help others. I went for Vado in the end but wish I hadn't.
The basin was incredibly easy to fit, with no messing trying to align the overflow. But the mechanism is plastic, with a fair amount of play, so the overall feel is somewhat cheap as the "mushroom" plug wobbles. It's also huge & covers the entire waste. Having a shallow fall, water sits on it so unless it's fully dried each time, a hard water line rapidly forms around the edge.
The ease of installation of the basin fooled me into thinking the same would apply with the bath. It was actually a complete PITA. All three rigid plastic pipes that make up the overflow had to be cut to size. Requiring multiple fitting, marking, disassembly, cutting, repeat. Then found the seal that sits in the bath was way too thick, leaving a big gap. So had to re-use the original. The cover for the overflow is held by an allen screw on the underside, so out of sight & difficult to secure with the supplied (poorly fitting) key. Has the same plastic mechanism as the basin waste with the same cheap feel. It's far too easy to activate accidentally while in the bath.
On the plus side, they both seal well with no leakage. How well they hold up remains to be seen.
The basin was incredibly easy to fit, with no messing trying to align the overflow. But the mechanism is plastic, with a fair amount of play, so the overall feel is somewhat cheap as the "mushroom" plug wobbles. It's also huge & covers the entire waste. Having a shallow fall, water sits on it so unless it's fully dried each time, a hard water line rapidly forms around the edge.
The ease of installation of the basin fooled me into thinking the same would apply with the bath. It was actually a complete PITA. All three rigid plastic pipes that make up the overflow had to be cut to size. Requiring multiple fitting, marking, disassembly, cutting, repeat. Then found the seal that sits in the bath was way too thick, leaving a big gap. So had to re-use the original. The cover for the overflow is held by an allen screw on the underside, so out of sight & difficult to secure with the supplied (poorly fitting) key. Has the same plastic mechanism as the basin waste with the same cheap feel. It's far too easy to activate accidentally while in the bath.
On the plus side, they both seal well with no leakage. How well they hold up remains to be seen.
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