Reform now the largest party in UK

[jacksonscraft]

So you believe the Reform party is a party of the establishment exactly the same as the Conservative and Labour parties.



So why do Reform supporters claim that it is a new party, on the side of the people fighting against the establishment……when you have just stated they are not.

No I haven't at all stated that. Farage, the reform leader, stood alone against almost the entire media and political "establishment" when he caused a political earthquake by almost singlehandedly taking us out of the wretched EU Oligarchy. So I see him and his party as somewhat apart from the uniparty arrangement. Or "establishment" if you prefer. Yes there are some familiar names in Reform [mainly in the form of ex Tories] but what of it? They need experienced politicians and no actual conservative can be successful in the WEF enthralled, net zero obsessed, Blairite Tory Party.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Reform gov' seems unavoidable now. I've problem with them having a shot at governing. Given the state of the economy and levels of illegal migration what do we have to lose?

A lot more than you give credit for.

They may be ok if there is only 1 issue bothering you. But I think there's more than the 1 issue

 

[carmanmemoranda]

They’ll get rid of Labour. . That is the benefit

Not if it goes back to where we were.

These short memories that people have. The previous lot had to go. It's not time for them or their replacements to return yet.

 

[Highway Man]

Not if it goes back to where we were.

These short memories that people have. The previous lot had to go. It's not time for them or their replacements to return yet.

Of course it is. Just look at what is happening around you.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Of course it is. Just look at what is happening around you.

Yes.

Just remind yourself what they took over. And why it happened

 

[Highway Man]

Yes.

Just remind yourself what they took over. And why it happened

They only got in because everyone was sick and tired of the lies and scandals. Labour is following suit and has done exactly the same. Only one party left who we have a chance with.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

They only got in because everyone was sick and tired of the lies and scandals. Labour is following suit and has done exactly the same. Only one party left who we have a chance with.

Lib dems?

Maybe, but I don't think they're strong enough

 

[Highway Man]

Lib dems?

Maybe, but I don't think they're strong enough

No definately not, Farage will be next with reform and we will see how they do. I think we may get some surprises and be the best party that we have had.

 

[transam]

Absolutely it is, the cards were marked as soon as the EU supplied and supported Ukraine.

Depends what you mean by supply ???

 

[Highway Man]

Depends what you mean by supply ???

weapons

 

[carmanmemoranda]

No definately not, Farage will be next with reform and we will see how they do. I think we may get some surprises and be the best party that we have had.

BY the time of the next election the political scene will have changed.

Reform have peaked and I'm guessing their 1 subject will be being addressed. It leaves them stranded then.

In which case the best they might get will be a hung parliament.

If they win they are still a 1 trick pony.

I just don't see why they excite you. Unless you just want to laugh at him of course

 

[aveatry]

Lib dems?

Student fees anyone ?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Student fees anyone ?

Yes. They sold themselves out for a few moments of (limited) power.

But time moves on

 

[Highway Man]

Yes. They sold themselves out for a few moments of (limited) power.

But time moves on

You can't keep saying that as an excuse

 

[transam]

weapons

I disagree

Doubt EU countries were supplying weapons to the Ukraine prior to poo tins invasion