Reform Policies

[motorbiking]

Nowadays companies use AI for the first interview. How to make the applicant feel worthless.

I do a quick scan usually and if I go for interview, the first thing I ask them to do is give me the 2 minute tour of their CV.

I did interview one lady who claimed to have an LLB in Law (Incomplete) and she proceeded to tell me that her tutor said she could come back and finish it off any time. This turned out to be over 10 years ago, I doubt the offer was that open ended.

 

[transam]

Diversity, Equality and Inclusion.

Oh

Load of baloney than ?? To give some over paid jobs to a bunch of waste of space pencil pushing paper shufflers ??

 

[Highway Man]

We have a black bloke at work who we call sooty. He is a good grafter and like the rest of us has balls of steel. If he can do the job and doesnt have a chip on his shoulder then he is one of us regardless to his colour.

 

[MNW67]

We have a black bloke at work who we call sooty. He is a good grafter and like the rest of us has balls of steel. If he can do the job and doesnt have a chip on his shoulder then he is one of us regardless to his colour.

Is he happy to be called Sooty. Or didn't he have a choice.

 

[Highway Man]

Is he happy to be called Sooty. Or didn't he have a choice.

Never gave him a choice. He is just one of the lads and I don't believe in treating him any different to anyone of us.

 

[MNW67]

Never gave him a choice. He is just one of the lads and I don't believe in treating him any different to anyone of us.

This has got to be a wind up.

He could sue your employer for quarter of a million.

 

[Highway Man]

This has got to be a wind up.

He could sue your employer for quarter of a million.

Well he hasnt

 

[MNW67]

Well he hasnt

Maybe I'm wrong.

@motorbiking might know more.

 

[Highway Man]

Maybe I'm wrong.

@motorbiking might know more.

He wouldn't do it because he takes the pizz out of me as bad. No special treatment for colour of skin from me.

 

[King Billy]

doesn't seem to have made any difference, other than cause resentment.

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06385/SN06385.pdf

That document doesn't indicate any resentment.
What it does do is to show the statistical higher unemployment rate among disadvantaged and underrepresented groups.
That suggests that Positive Action is needed and to be expanded.

 

[King Billy]

White boys don't under perform:

GCSE English and maths results

In the 2022 to 2023 school year, pupils from the Chinese ethnic group were the most likely out of all ethnic groups to get a grade 4 or above in GCSE English and maths (88.6%).

www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk

You should read the article before commenting:

A 2024 report from the Education Policy Institute compared white British pupils’ attainment against other ethnic groups across education, from early years foundation stage to 16-19 education. They found that by the end of secondary school, most ethnic groups achieved higher GCSE grades than white British pupils in 2023.

Summary: "Most ethnic groups achieved higher grades than white pupils."
Yet despite the lower grades achieved by white pupils, unemployment for most ethnic minority groups was higher than that for white people.

DEI is resented:

https://www.gartner.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/1-24-2023-gartner-hr-survey-identifies-top-five-challenges-facing-dei-leaders

According to that report. the only resistance was from existing employees.

Employee resistance to DEI initiatives stems from fear of lost status, misconceptions, and beliefs in meritocracy, manifesting as active pushback or passive disengagement. It is often driven by a desire to maintain the status quo, with employees fearing unfair treatment, reduced opportunities, or a lack of trust in leadership

It also shows that Positive Action is poorly communicated.

Why DEI backlash exists and what to do about it | SAP

Learn why clear, ongoing, two-way communication is the foundation for truly inclusive diversity and DEI programs that yield business payoff.

www.sap.com

This also shows resentment from existing staff, cause by poor communication.
Which shows exactly what I suggested: underrepresented groups persist in the work place for various reasons, one of them is that those people in the underrepresented groups are discouraged from applying, due to the underrepresentation of those groups.
Positive Action addresses that issue.

Perhaps we should scrap it as something that does more harm than good.

In your opinion.
It is only resented by existing employees. That suggests that the existing employees want to maintain the status quo.
The concern of the underrepresented groups appears to be justified.

 

[King Billy]

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Yet unemployment is higher in most underrepresented groups.

 

[King Billy]

No, we were discussing Zia Yusuf's claim that DEI policies were the reason that poor Caucasian boys failed. And being objective and rational, I started at the beginning with school. The main reason these boys fail is that they do badly at school and don't get the grades they need for work or university. And I have been asking which DEI policies you believe cause them to fail at school.

Yet unemployment is higher in most underrepresented groups.

 

[King Billy]

Well, that is the root cause of these boys failure. ...

But it doesn't fail them during recruitment. They are still more likely to be recruited than those from the underrepresented group.

 

[King Billy]

We can apply Occam's Razor.

Why didn't a particular boy get a job interview?

Is it:

A) Because he has no GCSEs

or

B) Because the employer put out a friendly advert saying they welcomed applications from everyone including minority groups which are currently under represented.

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