Swapping pendants for recessed GU10 in hallway

[adaml]

Hi

Is it OK to swap out the pendent lights in my hallway for GU10 recessed LED using these connectors -

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Lighting/d220/Interior+Lights/sd3066/Lampholder+GU10+240V/p34667

There are two pendants I'm wanting replaced. The current wiring setup in the pendant roses is exactly as shown in Fig 1A...

so if swapping them is OK I'd be getting rid of the roses and wiring it as Fig 1B in a choc box.

 

[Iggifer]

Second link didn't load for me, but the short answer is yes, but you won't need a GU10 lamp holder, you'll need an entire fitting (which will come with a lamp holder).

You might find that both pendants are on (or very close to) as joist though

 

[endecotp]

You might prefer to get an integrated LED downlighter.

If you want GU10 for some reason, you would normally get the connector and bezel together; the fitting that you linked to doesn't seem to include a bezel.

What is above the ceiling? Sometimes you need a fire-rated fitting, e.g. in flats.

 

[adaml]

Thanks for answers, ive changed the broken link for a picture of the diagram.

Above one of the lights is the upstairs hallway, above the other is the bathroom floor - is that a problem for IP rating on the fixture?

 

[Iggifer]

Nope, don't worry about IP ratings, can you lift either of the floors to see where the joists are? Or is the hole above the pendant big enough to be able to see the joists?

 

[endecotp]

If this is a "normal house", you have no fire-related requirements. Nor are there any IP requirements in the ceiling under a bathroom.

 

[adaml]

Have lifted the floor in the hallway but not the bathroom (that fitting is directly under the bath).

They are on the joists so the holes will be offset from the current rose positions, but I'm not worried about that because its being redecorated anyway.

 

[chivers67]

I'd be a bit concerned you might not have enough light - you will underneath them but it might be enough.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I don't have any doubts whatsoever that when he's replaced two pendants with two 2" recessed torches he will find that he has nowhere near enough light in the hallway.

Adam - seriously - by all means replace the pendants with recessed lights, but FGS use large ones, not 2-inch ones.

And take note of what iggifier said - there's a good chance that you won't be able to install them where the current ceiling roses are.

 

[winston1]

Hi

Is it OK to swap out the pendent lights in my hallway for GU10 recessed LED using these connectors -

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Lighting/d220/Interior+Lights/sd3066/Lampholder+GU10+240V/p34667

There are two pendants I'm wanting replaced. The current wiring setup in the pendant roses is exactly as shown in Fig 1A...

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so if swapping them is OK I'd be getting rid of the roses and wiring it as Fig 1B in a choc box.

You can't use bits of choc block above the ceiling. Use a junction box.

 

[Iggifer]

Hi
...if swapping them is OK I'd be getting rid of the roses and wiring it as Fig 1B in a choc box.

You can't use bits of choc block above the ceiling. Use a junction box.

He already said he'd be using a choc box.

 

[winston1]

Hi
...if swapping them is OK I'd be getting rid of the roses and wiring it as Fig 1B in a choc box.

You can't use bits of choc block above the ceiling. Use a junction box.

He already said he'd be using a choc box.

Which is why I said he can't do it and that he should use a junction box.

 

[Iggifer]

Hi
...if swapping them is OK I'd be getting rid of the roses and wiring it as Fig 1B in a choc box.

You can't use bits of choc block above the ceiling. Use a junction box.

He already said he'd be using a choc box.

Which is why I said he can't do it and that he should use a junction box.

Why can't he use a choc box?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Winston - it would save quite a bit of time if you could post a photo of a choc-box.

 

[Iggifer]

Winston - it would save quite a bit of time if you could post a photo of a choc-box.

I was going to, but I think he's realised his error