The Rise of the Far Right and How the Candidates seek to Emulate Trump

[King Billy]

Reading the opening paragraph of Moira Weigel's expose of Trump's success in USA, it reminded me of how the far right candidates in UK politics are inventing the enemy in British society to justify their policies.

Three weeks ago, around a quarter of the American population elected a demagogue with no prior experience in public service to the presidency. In the eyes of many of his supporters, this lack of preparation was not a liability, but a strength. Donald Trump had run as a candidate whose primary qualification was that he was not “a politician”. Depicting yourself as a “maverick” or an “outsider” crusading against a corrupt Washington establishment is the oldest trick in American politics – but Trump took things further. He broke countless unspoken rules regarding what public figures can or cannot do and say.

Trump invented the Political Correctness as the enemy in USA society. As Moira points out, it's the oldest trick in global politics, not just American politics.
And the supporters of such politicians genuinely believe in the existence of the enemy as identified by their hero.

Moira continues in her expose of trump, by analysing his tactics:

Every demagogue needs an enemy. Trump’s was the ruling elite, and his charge was that they were not only failing to solve the greatest problems facing Americans, they were trying to stop anyone from even talking about those problems. “The special interests, the arrogant media, and the political insiders, don’t want me to talk about the crime that is happening in our country,” Trump said in one late September speech. “They want me to just go along with the same failed policies that have caused so much needless suffering.”

The UK's far right politicians are exactly the same, they've identified what they perceive as the enemy of UK and its citizens, and they've relentlessly pursued that enemy.
Their supporters join in with the relentless crusade against those they perceive as their common enemy: immigrants, especially Muslim immigrants, and thus Muslims in general.
This crusade has been pursued for decades in UK and around the world, often with government's tacit approval and support. Political parties, in their search for popular support are eager to adopt the hue and cry against this imagined common enemy.

Unlike Trump's inability to define his enemy, "Political Correctness":

Trump and his followers never defined 'political correctness”, or specified who was enforcing it. They did not have to

The far right in UK politics have personified their fear of Islam, as perpetuated by the same politicians, and blame the immigrants for the faults, and fault lines in British society and culture. They describe it as some great social experiment gone awry, thereby adopting the conspiracy theory of some great global power steering and determining world events, the Trump equivalent of "the ruling elite".

The far right supporters in UK also adopt Trump's tactics of being the "maverick", the "outsider" who can see all, and knows where the faults and fault lines exist, and only they can see the solution to these faults and fault lines.

Moira's article is an excellent read, despite being nearly 10 years old.. But it is described as "The Long read", which is only by standards of typical newspaper articles.
I doubt that anyone suffering from ADHD will attempt to read it, so unfortunately I don't see much debate about this article.

 

[Odds]

Reading the opening paragraph of Moira Weigel's expose of Trump's success in USA, it reminded me of how the far right candidates in UK politics are inventing the enemy in British society to justify their policies.

Trump invented the Political Correctness as the enemy in USA society. As Moira points out, it's the oldest trick in global politics, not just American politics.
And the supporters of such politicians genuinely believe in the existence of the enemy as identified by their hero.

It's my understanding that began with the Tea Party Republicans, turning Obama's birth certificate into an issue, for instance, before they waged a wider war on the Progressive Democrats.

(R&C still gets confused between Liberals and Progressives, bless him.)

Moira continues in her expose of trump, by analysing his tactics:

The UK's far right politicians are exactly the same, they've identified what they perceive as the enemy of UK and its citizens, and they've relentlessly pursued that enemy.
Their supporters join in with the relentless crusade against those they perceive as their common enemy: immigrants, especially Muslim immigrants, and thus Muslims in general.
This crusade has been pursued for decades in UK and around the world, often with government's tacit approval and support. Political parties, in their search for popular support are eager to adopt the hue and cry against this imagined common enemy.

Unlike Trump's inability to define his enemy, "Political Correctness":

The far right in UK politics have personified their fear of Islam, as perpetuated by the same politicians, and blame the immigrants for the faults, and fault lines in British society and culture. They describe it as some great social experiment gone awry, thereby adopting the conspiracy theory of some great global power steering and determining world events, the Trump equivalent of "the ruling elite".

Fartrage is just a mini-me version of his hero. A squeaky little rodent with no moral compass to guide him, nor a backbone to keep him upright.

The far right supporters in UK also adopt Trump's tactics of being the "maverick", the "outsider" who can see all, and knows where the faults and fault lines exist, and only they can see the solution to these faults and fault lines.

Completely false, of course, since Trump is a part of the Establishment but his boorish behaviour means he can never become 'one of them' in their cosy blue chip clubhouse.

Moira's article is an excellent read, despite being nearly 10 years old.. But it is described as "The Long read", which is only by standards of typical newspaper articles.
I doubt that anyone suffering from ADHD will attempt to read it, so unfortunately I don't see much debate about this article.

 

[wobs]

They also emulated his incompetence:

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Himmy's got the whole of France in springtime to enjoy, but what does he do with his time instead? Sits on here, bashing his keyboard (and his bishop too I would hazard a guess), posting endless demented woke, lefty drivel that few can be arzed to read. Sad individual.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Skim read... link to the Guardian.

I didn't have a "proper gander" of any of the rest of the waffle.

Any chance of a summary that I could be bothered to read?

 

[aveatry]

Skim read... link to the Guardian.
I didn't have a "proper gander" of any of the rest of the waffle.
Any chance of a summary that I could be bothered to read?

He refuses to click on links that are posted for him to listen to or read like Utube or any other social media but expects everyone to read 5,000 word cut and paste.
I read as far as the title, whenever someone uses the phrase "The Rise Of" then you know it's going to be a load of far left propaganda lies and selective misquotes.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

LOL

I've also seen "A warning from history" with the same sort of rubbish.

Pure propaganda. Anyone who disagrees with open borders and communism is implied to be a nazi via vast amounts of vague drivel.

 

[King Billy]

Himmy's got the whole of France in springtime to enjoy, but what does he do with his time instead? Sits on here, bashing his keyboard (and his bishop too I would hazard a guess), posting endless demented woke, lefty drivel that few can be arzed to read. Sad individual.

The sad individual is the one who has no sensible arguments to offer, just constant anti-foreigner diatribes.

 

[King Billy]

He refuses to click on links that are posted for him to listen to or read

You're making things up as usual.
It's not a case of refusing to look at links, many of them are simply not accessible.

I don't have a Facebook account and I can't access the link.
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So this was information limited to those with a Facebook account.
No Facebook account = no way of knowing who was referred to.
That's stupid.

 

[King Billy]

LOL

I've also seen "A warning from history" with the same sort of rubbish.

Pure propaganda. Anyone who disagrees with open borders and communism is implied to be a nazi via vast amounts of vague drivel.

It's typical that you've formed your opinion of the post and the article when you haven't read it.

I didn't have a "proper gander" of any of the rest of the waffle.

But I never expected you would:

I doubt that anyone suffering from ADHD will attempt to read it, so unfortunately I don't see much debate about this article.

I should have added "and no Trump supporter".

 

[King Billy]

ICompletely false, of course, since Trump is a part of the Establishment but his boorish behaviour means he can never become 'one of them' in their cosy blue chip clubhouse.

Exactly, and some of his comments do not stand up to scrutiny.
Such as:

There is an obvious contradiction involved in complaining at length, to an audience of hundreds of millions of people, that you are being silenced.

 

[SPLINE]

Any chance of a summary that I could be bothered to read?

Summary: Zzzzzzzz

He refuses to click on links that are posted for him to listen to or read like Utube or any other social media but expects everyone to read 5,000 word cut and paste.
I read as far as the title, whenever someone uses the phrase "The Rise Of" then you know it's going to be a load of far left propaganda lies and selective misquotes.

He would be lost without us far-right right racist extremists. He thrives on us, like a bottom feeder.

 

[King Billy]

Summary: Zzzzzzzz

I doubt that anyone suffering from ADHD will attempt to read it, so unfortunately I don't see much debate about this article.

I should have added "and no Trump supporter".

us

"us"? Who is "us"?

far-right right racist extremists.

At least you recognise youselves. We just need to convince you of your dangerous activities now, which threaten the very cohesion of society.

 

[Highway Man]

"us"? Who is "us"?


At least you recognise youselves. We just need to convince you of your dangerous activities now, which threaten the very cohesion of society.

My god you are dull.

 

[Odds]

Exactly, and some of his comments do not stand up to scrutiny.
Such as: There is an obvious contradiction involved in complaining at length, to an audience of hundreds of millions of people, that you are being silenced.

Also, telling his supporters that he's going to 'drain the swamp' when all he meant was he'd simply find a fresh stock of alligators. The hypocrisy of the far right is blindingly obvious to anyone with eyes in their head, but in the MAGAland of the blind, the one-eyed snake is king.