We have had the hsa 6200 installed for over a year with no problems untill this morning. Just after the bin men wre outside our house the siren went off even although it was not set and hasn`t been for a couple of weeks now - this was at 07:00 and the outside temp was -3c any suggestions?
Yale 6200 went off, was it the bin lorry?
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mdf290
It might possibly be a tamper switch issue with your siren. Just check by climbing up to the siren and giving the case a rattle and tug to ensure the microswitches don't operate.
Unlikely to be the wagon.
Unlikely to be the wagon.
Unlikely but not impossible. A walkie talkie ( accidently ) dropped into a waste compactor survived compaction but with its press to talk button pushed in it transmitted continuously. As the bales of waste were kept on site the site's comm channel was blocked. Took a while to find it.
Maybe there was a scrapped baby alarm in the wagon still with its batteries in.
Or the wagon has a remote hand held control for the bin hoists.
Are the bins tagged with RFID tags ?
Maybe there was a scrapped baby alarm in the wagon still with its batteries in.
Or the wagon has a remote hand held control for the bin hoists.
Are the bins tagged with RFID tags ?
I think it is much more likely to be a tamper switch, possibly caused by poor fixing and vibration.
There are plenty of people using car keyfobs and baby monitors, and we only ever hear scare stories and fanciful guesswork about them causing problems, never any actual evidence of it.
There are plenty of people using car keyfobs and baby monitors, and we only ever hear scare stories and fanciful guesswork about them causing problems, never any actual evidence of it.
But if the bins are tagged then there will be a scanner on the wagon to read the tags The scanner has to be radiating RF energy to wake up the tags which do then transmit their identity.
my bins are tagged but the binmen don't have a scanner.
the foolish Conservative idea that you could charge people per weight of rubbish collected collapsed once it became generally realised that people would just throw their rubbish into streets and alleys.
Anyway, a few momentary blips from a scanner while it was outside the house would not set off the interference detector.
the foolish Conservative idea that you could charge people per weight of rubbish collected collapsed once it became generally realised that people would just throw their rubbish into streets and alleys.
Anyway, a few momentary blips from a scanner while it was outside the house would not set off the interference detector.
Are you sure the scanner only creates momentary blips ? The tags do but the scanner ?
One reason for tagging and weighing bins was to detect who was overloading bins and thus creating a health and safety hazard for the staff who had to move them to the wagon.
Charging by weight is sensible. helps to reduce waste, and why should a single person pay the same as a family of four. But as you say the side affect was to increase flytipping by people too mean to pay for the amount they waste.
well since they don't use a scanner, the question doesn't arise.
There are plenty of people using car keyfobs and baby monitors, and we only ever hear scare stories and fanciful guesswork about them causing problems, never any actual evidence of it.
Sadly had to remove batteries must be a circuit fault. Tried knocking and moving it but that did not activate the siren. Been up for 18 months with no previous issues until now, only thing was some cobwebs inside - guess I`ll have to replace the siren unit 
thanks for everyones interest.
thanks for everyones interest.
Maybe this will prove to be "actual evidence".
If the new siren "false" alarms with jamming detection enabled and then stops when jamming detection is disabled then interference may be the cause.
Might be worth the experiment of disabling jamming detection on the present siren to see if that stops "false" alarms.
Permanently disabling jamming detection will of course allow the siren to be blocked without the owner being aware and this will render the alarm useless during the time there is interference.
And maybe it won't.
it might be one of the sensors setting off the tamper. Have you changed the batteries in the last year or two? check all the sensors are firmly attached, especially the door ones, and their springs are compressed.
You can turn off "tamper detect" which enables you to take them down and change the batts, I have an idea it will set tamper back on after 30 minutes, but if the siren stops going off while you have the sensor batteries out, it will give you a clue of the source.
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mdf290
Hi you originally said a year now you just mentioned 18 months...
That gives the clue.
You need to change your PIR batteries... 3 x AAA in each and I suggest your problem will be solved..
I know the manufacturers say up to 3 yrs but in your busiest room (kitchen/lounge) expect 18 months...
Bernard . . . . You can stand down again now , literally a false alarm for you..
The door contact and keypad batteries can last much longer up to 5 years. Your siren will need new batteries when you hear 5 pips when you set and unset the alarm.
That gives the clue.
You need to change your PIR batteries... 3 x AAA in each and I suggest your problem will be solved..
I know the manufacturers say up to 3 yrs but in your busiest room (kitchen/lounge) expect 18 months...
Bernard . . . . You can stand down again now , literally a false alarm for you..
The door contact and keypad batteries can last much longer up to 5 years. Your siren will need new batteries when you hear 5 pips when you set and unset the alarm.
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