Zion and the Art of Armageddon

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Notch7 said:
The geo politics is everything

In very basic terms pretty much all the arab countries in the region surrounding Israel are enemies of the West

Ergo the West are on the side of Israel, as they keep these countries at bay
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That's a story put about by Israel, but is it true?

Arab anger is pretty well entirely driven by resentment of the West's support for Israel's invasion of Arab lands and oppression of Arab people.

What did you think caused it?

Hatred of American TV?
 
DevonBullet said:
The Muslims have far more affinity for Christians than atheist Communists but some were driven into alliance with the communists to gain some support against the American/Jewish occupation of Palestine. They were not at all war like in Palestine which is how they could barely put up a resistance to the Jewish terrorists before and during the ethnic cleansing of 1947-48.
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'The People of the Book' - Arabs *Moslems, Christians and Jews - share a common ancestry but over time disputes have arisen due to cultural differences, economic necessity and military alliances. The fundamentalists of all three religions cannot agree with anyone and refuse to see any other perspective other than their own narrow vision. They are the problem.

*edited for concision.
 
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Odds said:
'The People of the Book' - Arabs, Christians and Jews - share a common ancestry but over time disputes have arisen due to cultural differences, economic necessity and military alliances. The fundamentalists of all three religions cannot agree with anyone and refuse to see any other perspective other than their own narrow vision. They are the problem.
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Luckily different flavours of Christianity don't disagree at all, eh?

P.s.
"Arab" is not a religion. Pretty sure you mean Muslim.
 
fillyboy said:
I think Israel has less enemies than you suggest,
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Israel has very few enemies. However, there are many people, and some countries, opposed to oppression, racism, apartheid and genocide, so there is of course much criticism, and some opposition, to the actions of the State of Israel.

Some supporters of genocide like to pretend that the criticism is based on religion. This is not true.
 
For the West and some hardliners, the war is also being waged on someone else's territory. Like Ukraine, a live ground to observe new tactics and technology at work in real time. Drones and "smart " bombs at work. Civilians and infrastructure taking a brutal beating. Setting the tone for future conflicts. Mad world we live in. Cost, supplies and negative public opinion will eventually force a solution . Most people are appalled by what we are witnessing. Killing journalists and trying to influence the media is also the battle ground. At least at the moment we get to discuss on a forum even if we don't like or agree with each other. Don't forget, someone's making a lot of money supplying these bombs and bullets.
 
fillyboy said:
I can picture a sea change coming, I think Israel has less enemies than you suggest,
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Part of the drive is the UN General Assembly. Mixed reasons. Many do recognise a Palestinian state and are also fed up with western dominance of the UN. The other factor that exists is the US telling a country to align themselves against some type of enemy which can include China. One way they achieve this is providing aid. Many countries just want to align with who ever meets their needs best. So China will also provide aid. What a surprise.

The Arab states are all rather clear about what they want to see in respect to Palatine. Some western now as well. Why doesn't it happen - the veto.

So American might sorts it all out?
 
This current spat all
Started on the 7th October 2023 when Hamas slaughtered over a thousand Israeli cutizins who were minding there own bussiness

The killings were up close and personal
Executions including executions with knives /
Beheadings / throat cutting

Rapes and sexual attacks

Over 200 hostages taken some (all ? ) of whom were beaten by the baying mob in Gaza when they were driven there had they managed to get hold of them they would probably have been lynched by the mob ???

Hezbollah started shelling northern Israel on the 8 th October in support of Hamas s actions on the 7th

Afaik The mad mullers denied any knowledge

( yeah right ;) ;) )

And Devon wat sit aka various your on ignore u fruit cake :giggle: :cool:
 
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transam said:
Bother answering that Devin fruit cake he is a big supporter of Islamic terrorists / mad mullers and other such fruit cakes

Any regime that tortures / oppresses / woman and young girls
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I think he’s a chatGPT bot, no one can chat that much crap.

Well @Odds can, but he’s also semi funny.
 
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